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Update from Ukraine | Z-Army runs again and opened the friendly fire | Crazy!
Youtube.com ^ | 6-27-2023 | Denys Davydov

Posted on 06/27/2023 5:51:38 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com

Update from Ukraine | Z-Army runs again and opened the friendly fire | Crazy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mcLNYcb7b0

The summary of the situation of Russian re-invasion to Ukraine covering the last 48 hours, as of 26th June 2023 – 22:00 (Kyiv time).

https://militaryland.net/news/invasion-day-488-summary/

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1 posted on 06/27/2023 5:51:38 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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Update from Ukraine | Z-Army runs again and opened the friendly fire | Crazy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mcLNYcb7b0

The summary of the situation of Russian re-invasion to Ukraine covering the last 48 hours, as of 26th June 2023 – 22:00 (Kyiv time).

https://militaryland.net/news/invasion-day-488-summary/

*** Great interactive map with viewer controlled Map magnification tool to use for each Front!

https://militaryland.net/maps/


2 posted on 06/27/2023 5:52:03 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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VIDEOS

1. Ben Hodges - After the Wagner Coup what is the Likely Future for Vladimir Putin and the Russian Army
Silicon Curtain
38.1K subscribers
Jun 27, 2023 3:00 p.m. EDT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAJfEBn405g

GUEST: Lt. Gen. Ben Hodges - Retired United States Army officer ————— After the incursion by Wagner mercenaries revealed how badly the war is going for Russia, Ben Hodges, former commanding general for the U.S. Army in Europe asks what the future for Vladimir Putin and the Russian Army is likely to be. ————— SPEAKER: Ben Hodges is a retired United States Army officer, who became commander of United States Army Europe in November 2014, and held that position for three years until retiring from the United States Army in January 2018. He has been Senior Advisor to Human Rights First since June 2022 and also serves as NATO Senior Mentor for Logistics. Until recently was the Pershing Chair in Strategic Studies, at the Centre for European Policy Analysis, specialising in NATO, the Transatlantic relationship and international security

2. Has Saturday’s Mutiny Left President Putin Seriously Weakened? Is His Future Secure?
The Wire
4.56M subscribers
Streamed live on Jun 26, 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSC-Kh-ADD4
Saturday’s mutiny in Russia has raised urgent questions which Kanti Bajpai, Wilmar Professor at the National University of Singapore, answers in a live interview.


3 posted on 06/27/2023 5:54:36 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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There is progress in all areas where we are conducting offensive actions, - Zelensky. VIDEO
23:42 27.06.2023 77835
Censor.NЕТ.
https://m.censor.net/en/video_news/3427429/there_is_progress_in_all_areas_where_we_are_conducting_offensive_actions_zelensky_video

President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s address to the citizens of Ukraine at the end of the 489th day of the war with Russia.

Corresponding videо was published by press service of President: https://fb.watch/lr2s8h1rkq/

“Exactly on the anniversary of the attack of Russian terrorists on Kremenchuk, on the shopping center, when 22 people were killed, Russian inhumans again sent missiles to the Kremenchuk district... Today, Russian terrorists brutally shelled Kramatorsk. They used C-300 missiles. Unfortunately, there are dead and wounded. We are providing assistance. The rubble is being cleared.

Each such manifestation of terror proves again and again to us and to the whole world that Russia deserves only one thing as a result of all it has done: defeat and a tribunal, fair and lawful trials against all Russian murderers and terrorists.

Today, we have a new defense package from the United States for our soldiers: armored vehicles, ammunition for Patriots, Stingers, and HIMARS, and additional shells for our artillery. I thank Mr. President Biden, the Congress - both parties, all Americans!

The frontline. Our heroes, our active actions. Today, we are also making progress in all areas where we are conducting offensive operations. There are important results in repelling Russian assaults. Thank you, soldiers!” Zelensky said.

“Exactly on the anniversary of the strike of Russian terrorists on Kremenchug, on a shopping center, when 22 people were killed, Russian Inhumans again sent rockets to the Kremenchug district…

Today, Russian terrorists also brutally shelled Kramatorsk. S-300 Missiles. Unfortunately, there are dead and wounded. Assistance is provided. The analysis of rubble continues.

Each such manifestation of terror proves again and again to us and to the whole world that Russia deserves only one thing in the consequences of everything it has done: defeat and a tribunal, fair and legitimate trials against all Russian murderers and terrorists.

And I thank again and again everyone in the world who supports Ukraine and helps protect our people!”


4 posted on 06/27/2023 5:56:39 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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Well, traditional Russian military doctrine was to give every other man a weapon, and when the first guy got killed, the second guy inherited the gun. Then they set up machine guns behind the front line to shoot anyone that ran. See Order 227.


5 posted on 06/27/2023 5:59:02 PM PDT by PAR35
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VIDEOS

1. ‘Prigozhin is not finished’ - The fallout from the Wagner mutiny in Russia
Sky News
6.46M subscribers
Jun 27, 2023 6:00 a.m. EDT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP8j0b3_c7Q
Russian authorities say they have closed criminal investigations into Wagner Group mercenaries who took part in the rebellion over the weekend, as well as their leader Yevgeny Prigozhin. Defence and Security analyst Professor Michael Clarke takes a closer look at what’s happening on the ground in Russia.

2. Lukashenko confirms Wagner chief Proigozhin arriving in Belarus | DW News
DW News - DW is a German public broadcast service
4.64M subscribers
Jun 27, 2023 3:30 p.m EDT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ9ZYd3Qkew
Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko has confirmed that the head of the Wagner mercenary group Yevgeny Prigozhin has arrived in Belarus. The country’s state news agency quoted Lukashenko as saying Yevgeny Prigozhin and some of his troops are welcome to stay in Belarus for some time at their own expense. Lukashenko was also quoted as saying that it was him who talked Prigozhin out of trying to enter Moscow.

After calling off his revolt against Russia’s defence leadership on Saturday, Prigozhin agreed a deal to move to Belarus. Franak Viacorka, a chief political adviser to Belarusian opposition leader Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya, told DW that Wagner group leader Yevgeny Prigozhin’s arrival in Belarus was very dangerous for Belarusian society and independence, as well as for neighboring Poland, Lithuania, and Latvia.


6 posted on 06/27/2023 6:00:02 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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“Well, traditional Russian military doctrine was to give every other man a weapon, and when the first guy got killed, the second guy inherited the gun. Then they set up machine guns behind the front line to shoot anyone that ran. See Order 227.”

WOW! That’s crazy! Thanks for information.


7 posted on 06/27/2023 6:01:09 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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Consequences of Russian missile strike on an establishment in center of Kramatorsk: 3 dead and 25 wounded. VIDEO
Censor.NЕТ.
Iryna Sampan
22:08 27.06.2023 7 2079
https://m.censor.net/en/video_news/3427423/consequences_of_russian_missile_strike_on_an_establishment_in_center_of_kramatorsk_3_dead_and_25_wounded

The Russian occupiers launched a missile attack on a catering facility in the centre of Kramatorsk, where there was a large crowd of people.

According to Censor.NET, an operational headquarters has been set up at the site, the wounded are receiving the necessary assistance. The rubble is being cleared, there may be people there. Police and rescuers are currently working at the scene, Censor.NET correspondent Iryna Sampan reports.

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https://storage2.censor.net/video/3/270623_dgx.mp4


8 posted on 06/27/2023 6:03:51 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/06/the-making-of-propaganda-putin-has-been-weakened-russia-is-crumbling.html#more

For the record. Progozhin was all alone in his mutiny attempt. Not one element of the Russian government or civil society joint him in his ride. So where are the cracks? There are none. Also Russia's military is now larger and better equipped then before the war. Russia's economy is fine and growing. Its standing in the world has increased.

9 posted on 06/27/2023 6:04:16 PM PDT by Kazan
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VIDEOS

1. Putin is ‘losing the magic of kingship’ and could be ready to give up in Ukraine | Roger Boyes
Times Radio
420K subscribers
Jun 27, 2023 4:30 p.m EDT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_NQozCwjA4
“[Putin] is losing the magic of kingship… all the people who were loyal to him and now see how he’s treating Prigozhin… there is no sense anymore in being loyal to him” Putin could be ready to give up Ukraine invasion says The Times diplomatic editor Roger Boyes.

2. Lukashenko: Putin had decided to ‘eliminate’ Wagner chief Prigozhin, but I ‘suggested not to rush’
The Telegraph
3.9M subscribers
Jun 27, 2023 12: 30 p.m. EDT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkwRAQOKcng
Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko has relayed details of his purported mediation between Russian President Vladimir Putin and rebellious mercenary leader Yevgeny Prigozhin to settle the short-lived coup attempt.


10 posted on 06/27/2023 6:07:20 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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ARTICLE FOCUSED ON MILITARY WEAPONS & ACTIVITY

The Wagner Mutiny Hit Russia’s Air Force Hard. Really Hard.
Sébastien Roblin
Updated Tue, June 27, 2023 at 2:29 PM EDT
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/a44348988/wagner-group-rebellion-impact-on-russia-air-force/

Last Friday, Yevgeny Prigozhin, a businessman-turned-warlord controlling Russia’s globe-spanning Wagner private military company and its tens of thousands of mercenaries, launched an armed mutiny aimed not so much at overthrowing President Vladimir Putin but, rather, the leadership of Russia’s defense ministry.

While Prigozhin claimed that Russia’s military had intentionally shelled his mercenaries, the underlying conflict was due to plans by Russia’s ministry of defense to convert much of his manpower into regular army service, as well as Prigozhin’s increasingly open personal attacks against unpopular Russian defense minister, Sergei Kuzhugetovich Shoigu.

Prigozhin himself joined a mechanized force—including T-80BV and T-90s tanks—which surrounded and seized control of the Russian military headquarters in Rostov, a city of one million that serves as the logistical base for Russian forces invading southeastern Ukraine.
Separately, a column of Wagner troops counting over one hundred trucks went barreling down the M4 highway towards Moscow.

Twenty-four hours later—after Putin promised to “brutally” deal with a henchman he now described as a back-stabbing traitor in a public address—the relationship was patched over in a deal supposedly proposed by Belarussian dictator Alexander Lukaschenko. Charges of armed rebellion against Prigozhin were dropped, he would move to Belarus, and some of his troops would still be absorbed by Russia’s military while others may be transferred to Wagner’s extensive overseas deployments, particularly in Africa.

Never mind the seven Russian military aircraft reportedly shot down and 13 Russian air force (VKS) pilots killed by Wagner anti-aircraft fire, as reported by pro-Russian military sources. The full claimed count includes:
• 2 attack helicopters (Ka-52 and Mi-35)
• 1 armed transport helicopter (Mi-8)
• 3 electronic warfare helicopters (Mi-8MTPR-1)
• 1 Il-22M airborne command post/comms relay plane
Indeed, the mutiny led the VKS to lose more in 24 hours than it had in several days of frontline combat against Ukraine’s counter offensive.

Two-way Ground Vs. Air Warfare
Russian armed forces on the ground—including army, Rosgvardia national guard and other internal security troops—evidently failed to shoot at, or even to simply obstruct, Wagner forces. So, it seems that all of the violence during the Wagner revolt occurred between VKS and Wagner’s ground troops.

Prigozhin’s column entering Rostov appears to have elicited an exchange fire late Friday evening. Prigozhin later claimed his troops opened fire because Russian helicopters mistakenly targeted civilian roadsters. His forces seized the airbase of Millerovo, but allowed personnel there to continue combat missions over Ukraine as long as a Wagner observer was onboard to prevent movement against Wagner forces—an inverted throwback to Soviet commisars (political officers).

But a more lethal imbroglio occurred on the M4 highway to Moscow as the Wagner column approached the city of Voronezh in the oblast of the same name.

This column was composed of over 100 vehicles—mostly military and civilian trucks, but also several MRAPS, T-72s, and T-80s mounted on tank transporters. Air defense included at least two truck-based Pantsir-S1 short-range air defense systems armed with both missiles and 30-millimeter cannons, as well as at least one less capable Strela-10 tracked armored air defense vehicle. (These systems are codenamed SA-22 Greyhound and SA-13 Gopher respectively.)

VIDEO LINK: https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1672522249176338436?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1672522249176338436%7Ctwgr%5E2d5e3ba5aa0077c956d24a2567632000dc0cc2c0%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.popularmechanics.com%2Fmilitary%2Faviation%2Fa44348988%2Fwagner-group-rebellion-impact-on-russia-air-force%2F

It was here (and nowhere else) that Russian aviation seems to have knocked out at least five Wagner light vehicles: two 6x6 trucks, an MRAP, two machine-gun armed pickup trucks, and a mine-resistant MRAP style vehicle. Some strikes also apparently targeted infrastructure such as bridges to slow down the column.

Some of the attacks appear to have involved large gravity bombs, normally (but not exclusively) employed by fixed-wing jets. Though no jets are visible on video, one account claims that relatively modern Su-34 ‘Fullback’ bombers were employed.

One Russian Tiktok post shows a massive blast falling on a Wagner column.
VIDEO https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1673371438290460672?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1673371438290460672%7Ctwgr%5E2d5e3ba5aa0077c956d24a2567632000dc0cc2c0%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.popularmechanics.com%2Fmilitary%2Faviation%2Fa44348988%2Fwagner-group-rebellion-impact-on-russia-air-force%2F

Another video recorded from within a civilian car shows a bomb detonating nearby, its shockwave flipping the car over. It’s unclear whether missing the road and bridge was intentional or accidental.

VIDEO
https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1672727525921808386?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1672727525921808386%7Ctwgr%5E2d5e3ba5aa0077c956d24a2567632000dc0cc2c0%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.popularmechanics.com%2Fmilitary%2Faviation%2Fa44348988%2Fwagner-group-rebellion-impact-on-russia-air-force%2F

A Russian Ka-52 Alligator helicopter—an advanced type know for its shark-like nose and double rotors—was also alleged to have destroyed a fuel storage depot on the eastern side of Voronezh, presumably in hopes of denying it uses by the column.

VIDEO
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1672544902100467713?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1672544902100467713%7Ctwgr%5E2d5e3ba5aa0077c956d24a2567632000dc0cc2c0%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.popularmechanics.com%2Fmilitary%2Faviation%2Fa44348988%2Fwagner-group-rebellion-impact-on-russia-air-force%2F

This attack was filmed from other angles too, including from a construction platform. Geolocation suggests that this incident took place at a major four-way intersection/overpass on the M4 highway at the eastern outskirts of Voronezh city.

One video shot by civilians at a nearby lineup of car dealerships shows both a Wagner Strela-10 air defense vehicle on the ground and a nearby flying Ka-52. Two surface-to-air missile launches are seen or heard, followed by the sound of an explosion.

VIDEO
https://twitter.com/CalibreObscura/status/1672553102526889985?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1672553102526889985%7Ctwgr%5E2d5e3ba5aa0077c956d24a2567632000dc0cc2c0%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.popularmechanics.com%2Fmilitary%2Faviation%2Fa44348988%2Fwagner-group-rebellion-impact-on-russia-air-force%2F

In the same area, perhaps this very same Ka-52 was recorded narrowly escaping a Wagner missile, thanks to its flare decoy.

VIDEO
https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1672557100969361409?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1672557100969361409%7Ctwgr%5E2d5e3ba5aa0077c956d24a2567632000dc0cc2c0%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.popularmechanics.com%2Fmilitary%2Faviation%2Fa44348988%2Fwagner-group-rebellion-impact-on-russia-air-force%2F

There is an alternate theory, therefore, that the Strela-10’s 9K35 missiles or the Ka-52’s helicopter flares accidentally landed on the depot and caused the explosion, rather than it being a deliberate attack.

One way or another, at some point, Ka-52 Yellow 72 (serial number RF-13418) was shot down near Talovaya (southeast of Voronezh), killing the pilot.

VIDEO
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1672639333587722242?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1672639333587722242%7Ctwgr%5E2d5e3ba5aa0077c956d24a2567632000dc0cc2c0%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.popularmechanics.com%2Fmilitary%2Faviation%2Fa44348988%2Fwagner-group-rebellion-impact-on-russia-air-force%2F
An older Mi-35 Hind gunship helicopter was also downed near Rostov after attacking the Wagner column (recorded here), but its two crew survived.

There are also reports of downing of an Mi-8 ‘Hip’ transport helicopter—which can be armed with rockets for ground attack missions—and damaging of an Mi-28 Havoc helicopter allegedly “holed” by Wagner fire.

https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/1673013095877230592?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1673013095877230592%7Ctwgr%5E2d5e3ba5aa0077c956d24a2567632000dc0cc2c0%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.popularmechanics.com%2Fmilitary%2Faviation%2Fa44348988%2Fwagner-group-rebellion-impact-on-russia-air-force%2F
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But most puzzlingly, early in the mutiny, Fighter Bomber reported that Wagner downed two highly valuable Mi-8MTPR Rychag electronic warfare helicopters flying as a pair near Rostov/Millerovo. All of the crew survived, though one of the lost helicopters was consumed in flames.

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The blog later reported the loss of a third Mi-8MTPR during the mutiny over Luhansk in Ukraine, near where Wagner’s Voronezh column had begun. The crash, pictured here, gave time for only one of the four crew members to parachute out.
Russia began the war with just 15 Mi-8MTPRs, which employ long-range jammers to drown out Ukrainian air defenses, degrading detection time and accuracy during Russian missile, drone and bombing attacks. Combined with two Mi-8MTPRs lost over Russian airspace nearly simultaneously in May to an ambush likely involving a forward-deployed Patriot missile battery, Russia has lot one-third of its heliborne jamming fleet.

Possibly as devastating was the downing of a large plane near Kantemirovka—likely a rare, specialized type fitted with advanced sensors and communications equipment.

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VIDEO https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1672542143280234496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1672542143280234496%7Ctwgr%5E2d5e3ba5aa0077c956d24a2567632000dc0cc2c0%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.popularmechanics.com%2Fmilitary%2Faviation%2Fa44348988%2Fwagner-group-rebellion-impact-on-russia-air-force%2F

Multiple sources report that this was an IL-22M airborne command post plane often used to relay communications —possibly with serial numbers RF-75917—with eight crew aboard, none of whom survived. The Il-22M has neither weapons nor ejection seats. However, it could have been used to track and direct attacks against the Wagner column. Earlier in 2018, the Russian Air Force lost an Il-22M over Syria to friendly fire following an Israeli air strike.

VIDEO
https://twitter.com/aldin_aba/status/1673041384243077124?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1673041384243077124%7Ctwgr%5E2d5e3ba5aa0077c956d24a2567632000dc0cc2c0%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.popularmechanics.com%2Fmilitary%2Faviation%2Fa44348988%2Fwagner-group-rebellion-impact-on-russia-air-force%2F
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However, the plane seen falling in the video appears to have only two engines, not the four of an Il-22. That could mean that the aircraft seen in the video may have been an An-24, an An-26, or An-140-100 transports.

How Did This Happen?
That VKS losses were so high led some to wonder why Ukraine’s air defenses have had less verifiable success during their counter offensives. Could Wagner’s prowess or equipment somehow explain the difference?

Wagner forces were seen disposing of four types of anti-aircraft weapons: heavy 12.7mm and 14.5mm anti-air machine guns (effective out to 1 miles), man-portable air defense systems (presumably Igla-S or Verbas, effective out to 3 or 4 miles), the Strela-10 tracked vehicle (with a range of 3 miles) and, most potently, the Pantsir-S1. The Pantsir uses 57E6 missiles with a max range of 9-11 miles, and relies on radio commands from the radar- and electro-optical sensor equipped truck for guidance.

Ukraine doesn’t have its own Pantsirs, but there are better explanations for the differences in counter offensive success. After heavy early-war losses, Russian combat helicopters ordinarily try to stay outside of—or dart only briefly within—the 2-4 mile range of portable air defense systems donated to Ukraine. The preferred weapons are unguided rockets fired in an arc and Vikhr long-distance anti-tank guided missiles that can target specific vehicles or fortifications.

However, those cautious tactics weren’t viable against the two Wagner columns advancing down Russian highways full of civilian traffic—the pilots needed to get closer to ID targets if they wanted to not accidentally blow up civilian buses or fellow Russian regular military vehicles. But that, in turn, exposed them to Wagner’s short-range missiles and heavy anti-aircraft machine guns. The Fighter Bomber blog, commenting on the video of the near miss of a civilian car, remarked that the convoys “were mixed with civilians, the air defense systems were deployed amongst car parks and busy stores.”

It’s still unclear why the valuable Mi-8MTPRs and the Il-22M—neither designed for direct combat—would have been dispatched to close within visual range of Prigozhin’s forces. The MTPR model even has the regular model’s armor removed. Presumably, they came under fire performing either a show of force or a reconnaissance mission, perhaps not realizing the kinetic escalation of the confrontation.

What’s Next for the VKS and Wagner?

Several Kremlin-aligned Western propagandists have sought to cast doubt on the losses, whether out of denial rooted in motivated thinking (nobody likes to admit their preferred side suffered heavy losses), or as a deliberate deception tactic to muddy the waters and to maintain the laughable official line that Russia is “now more unified than ever” following what was humiliating and damaging mutiny.

But the reports of losses come from pro-war Russian sources—notably, the prominent Fighter Bomber social media account run by a former Russian pilot, and the Rybar telegram account. The videos and photos posted to social media come from horrified Russian civilians.

The losses to Russian pilots mean Wagner may face an even harder time calling for air support from the VKS. Historically, the VKS had actually loaned older ground attack jets—including A-10-like Su-25 Frogfoots and supersonic Su-24 Fencers—for use by former military pilots in Wagner’s employ. Prigozhin, as a stunt, flew a mission on an Su-24. Furthermore, Kanamat Botashev, a 63-year-old retired major general who died in May of 2022 when his Su-25 was downed by a Stinger missile over Ukraine, is believed to have been in Wagner’s employ.

That said, post-mutiny, the Wagner organization’s role in the Ukraine fighting seems set to dwindle rapidly. But, despite the de-escalation of the mutiny, it seems distinctly possible that Russia’s military and security services may look for means of retaliation against Prigozhin that won’t involve a major battle against Wagner fighters on Russian soil.


11 posted on 06/27/2023 6:15:08 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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ARTICLES

1. Wagner to hand over military hardware to Russia - BBC News
BBC News
14.4M subscribers
June 27, 2023 7:30 a.m. EDT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea5xCw_fcpQ
Russia’s defence ministry has said preparations are under way for the Wagner mercenary group to hand over its military hardware. It comes after President Vladimir Putin’s confirmed several Russian pilots died during the weekend’s mutiny. Wagner members, who Putin said were mostly true patriots that had been misled into a criminal adventure, could choose to join the regular military, return to their families, or go to Belarus. It was also announced that the FSB was dropping all criminal charges against those who participated in the mutiny.

2. Will the Wagner mutiny cost Putin power in Russia?
Guardian News
3.12M subscribers
Jun 27, 2023 11: 00 a.m. EDT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4iSU465cf0
It was a dramatic 24 hours in Russia, when the leader of the Wagner mercenary group, Yevgeny Prigozhin, mutinied, turning his forces back toward Russia in what he described as a ‘march for justice’.


12 posted on 06/27/2023 6:17:52 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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ARTICLE

Ukraine Recaptured More Territory than Russia Occupied in Winter – British Defence Secretary
Europen Pravda
Tuesday, 27 June 2023
https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/27/7164530/

Ben Wallace, the UK Defence Secretary, stated that the Ukrainian Defence Forces have liberated more territory as part of their summer counteroffensive than Russian occupying army captured during the winter offensive.

According to the British Minister, “Ukraine has already recaptured approximately 300 square km” of its territories that were under Russian occupation.

“That’s more territory than Russia seized in its whole winter offensive,” he said, addressing the British Parliament.

VIDEO: https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ/status/1673363835443466240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1673363835443466240%7Ctwgr%5E56f61c011d41aeaaf474678b691b9bdca0a0b883%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.eurointegration.com.ua%2Feng%2Fnews%2F2023%2F06%2F27%2F7164530%2F

Wallace highlighted that the Ukrainian forces continue to make gradual but steady progress, conducting offensive operations on three key fronts in the east and south.
Earlier, The New York Times reported that the administration of US President Joseph Biden unofficially says that the Ukrainian counteroffensive started slowly and its results in the first few weeks “sobering”, but they are not in a hurry to draw conclusions.


13 posted on 06/27/2023 6:21:55 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
The walls are closing in on your favorite Ukie propagandist


14 posted on 06/27/2023 6:23:33 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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VIDEOS

1. What the Russians are looking for in our phones | Break the Fake | TVP World
TVP World
376K subscribers
6-27-2023 5:00 p.m. EDT Premiered
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO0yt_CiyLE
Russian state security – the guardian of civil liberties across the world. Sounds like something out of a surrealist manifesto or a joke you tell your buddies at a bar, doesn’t it? But the Russians are taking that stuff very seriously, meaning that they’re not interested in safeguarding anything, but are well aware that this is an issue that Western societies take very seriously.

2. Kazakhstan drifts away from Russia’s sphere of influence | Eastern Express | TVP World
TVP World TVP is a Polish public broadcast service
376K subscribers
Jun 27, 2023 6:30 p.m. EST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96KV7Gv9xy8
It is truly heart-warming what we’ve witnessed over the course of the past few months. War criminal, warmonger, and Russian autocrat Vladimir Putin has found himself abandoned by another of his very few friends. The sphere of Russian influence is shrinking and Kazakhstan – one of Russia’s key satellite states until recently – is a great example of its gradual demise. President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev is consistently drifting away from Moscow and seeking allies in both Europe and Asia. Joining us in this episode of Eastern Express to shed more light on the issue was Bruce Pannier, a journalist and Central Asia Expert


15 posted on 06/27/2023 6:26:03 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: JonPreston

He’s safe from everything but Ukrainian S-300s where he’s at...


16 posted on 06/27/2023 6:27:45 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: JonPreston

“The walls are closing in”

Only you didn’t recognize that he was a target!


17 posted on 06/27/2023 6:27:55 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: kiryandil

“He’s safe from everything but Ukrainian S-300s where he’s a
t...”

You have no clue.


18 posted on 06/27/2023 6:29:26 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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19 posted on 06/27/2023 6:32:57 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: All
Mural in Korets, Rivne region
20 posted on 06/27/2023 6:34:29 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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