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To: knarf
It just seems to me that, ever since Obama, The United States has been on a steady moral and cultural decline even the '60's couldn't germinate.

Bill Clinton. That's when the government went wholesale criminal. Clinton caused the housing market collapse in 2008. The media liars elected Obama.

4 posted on 06/24/2023 3:16:17 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

I trace a lot of the decline to Bill Clinton. He was personally, politically, and financially corrupt. He was as slimy as they come. But that’s okay. American has had bad presidents before. The difference with Clinton is that the establishment and the media closed ranks around him. Instead of holding Clinton to account, the powers that be went on the offensive. It was those that wanted Clinton to be removed and/or prosecuted who were the bad guys. He got off Scot free (more or less). And that has been the basic roadmap for Democrats (like Hillary, Biden, even Obama) ever since.


8 posted on 06/24/2023 3:29:19 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: DiogenesLamp

Starts with LBJ.

Welfare state and trillions of dollars confiscated from workers to diversity/equity/inclusion bs.

Then Carter. Wouldn’t renew the lease on an incredibly important strategic asset. Iran hostages. Botched rescue. Crap economy.

Then Clinton. More gun control. Taxes. Hillary tries to sovietize healthcare and fails. Scandals. Tech xfer to China for money to Billary. Murders of enemies continues. Their legal counsel fort marcy park “suicides” himself. Stole 1000 folders of info on various people they wanted to control from the fbi. Waco. Janet Reno. Elian Gonzales disaster.

Then Obama. Gets hillary’s soviet hcare passed on voice vote at 2am. Continues to destroy country with all sorts of perversions, more taxes, gun control, more funds for abortions, has their justice dept declare christians and political enemies as domestic terrorists. First transwife Michelle/Michael.

Now Biden. Hes got other doing the details but he’s got all the hate directing it. When he slips up you see it. Probably all he can do to control it.


19 posted on 06/24/2023 5:49:27 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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