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To: DiogenesLamp

I trace a lot of the decline to Bill Clinton. He was personally, politically, and financially corrupt. He was as slimy as they come. But that’s okay. American has had bad presidents before. The difference with Clinton is that the establishment and the media closed ranks around him. Instead of holding Clinton to account, the powers that be went on the offensive. It was those that wanted Clinton to be removed and/or prosecuted who were the bad guys. He got off Scot free (more or less). And that has been the basic roadmap for Democrats (like Hillary, Biden, even Obama) ever since.


8 posted on 06/24/2023 3:29:19 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: fhayek
A valid point.

I considered him as I formulated my rant, but Obama was the more outrageous and I chose him.

9 posted on 06/24/2023 3:36:03 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true . . . I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: fhayek

Yup.


10 posted on 06/24/2023 3:55:36 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: fhayek

Bill Clinton was the first president who had a documented proven history of raping women. At least 4 that we know of.

Obama was the first president to push homosexuality on the public, especially on black society. Prior to Obama, black culture frowned on homosexual behavior. Obama changed that mindset and forced black men to embrace the Twink culture.

Then when the idiot Justice Anthony Kennedy decided that the constitution enshrined the right of men marrying men (and women marrying women), all hell was set loose. Homosexual depravity is now taught to kindergarteners with the current moral rot as a result.

Society is DEFINITELY going to collapse. Homosexual marriage is the catalyst for the destruction of the West.


14 posted on 06/24/2023 4:43:21 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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To: fhayek

The decline happened on two fronts. Schools, and women wanting a career in the stead of teaching children at home and with schools help.

Both things in concert, then you have more people competing for jobs. Wages went down, that cycle is set in motion and hasn’t stopped.

Women wanted to work at first, then they needed to work. The kids, instead of learning early math skills and how to read at Mommas knee, went off the school fairly ignorant.

The teachers, seeing the power they now had to push women into the position of guilt, or pride, could be blackmailed into lockstep supporting Teachers Unions.

The Teachers, no longer needing or wanting to be excellent, learned to push Legislatures around, who they negotiated with for raises and power.

The cycle of dependence was born, turned full throttle into the “Twister” that brought us to today. Women supporting big Education, teaching Womens rights, and now 45% male enrollment in Colleges. Where are women going to find a man of equal standing? They won’t, but they sure are free to “hook up”, and men have always been ready for that. Abortion, Welfare, Food Stamps..... the twister is now a Cat 7 Tornado.


27 posted on 06/24/2023 7:27:11 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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