Posted on 06/23/2023 9:20:19 AM PDT by Red Badger
“I wonder if implosion at this depth and pressure even leaves recognizable bodies for retrieval and burial?”
There were no bodies left after the Thresher implosion nor the Scorpion loss.
The theory is that at that depth and pressure, bodies are immediately vaporized. In other words, there is nothing left to retrieve.
Pressure is .433 pounds per foot. At 12, 500 feet, 6, 000 PSI. At that pressure it takes 2 nanoseconds to implode and 4 nanoseconds for the body to sense pain. Thankfully, the crew did not have time to sense a problem.
“Was there really a tapping sound, or was that just a lie?”
There probably was a tapping sound. However, there are millions of sounds floating around the ocean. Hydrophones placed at strategic areas of the ocean ‘hear’ inordinate sounds in the depths always. Water is an excellent carrier of sound. The tapping noise could have come from some other ocean.
This Titan saga is so full of analogs it's surreal. A few examples:
Looks suspiciously like a couple thousand years of settled doctrine (cycle fatigue) is about to implode (yikes), and those on the inside will never see it coming. Blink of an eye. Rush. Shattered into a cloud of carbon-Titan fiber hull ( גוף , קלפה ) particles.
Aunt: דוֹדָה dodah of
Suleman Dawood
Named like Solomon, son of David.
There was the odd story about the stepson of Hamish Harding going to a "Blink 182" (whatever that is) concert while the search was ongoing.
In the Jewish spheres, the obvious numeric association is that 182 = Jacob. Well right, so what.
"Hamish" looks like it comes from Hebrew "5" and more, but the simple meaning is:
Supplanter, holder of the heel
Meaning: Supplanter, holder of the heel. Hamish is a boy's name of Scottish origin and a variant of the Irish name Séamus. Borrowed from the Hebrew name Jacob, Hamish means “supplanter” or “holder of the heel.”
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Hamish really got around, down to Challenger Deep. He even went with Buzz Aldrin to the South Pole:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/buzz-aldrin-linda-british-world-south-pole-b2360695.html
Either the CEO was on his own stealth suicide mission hoping this would be the one, or he believed in his own superpowers, just like everyone else on the ride down.
Well, except for poor Suleman. He only wanted to honor his father, so he let that desire override his fears.
The French explorer was (is) known as *the* Titanic expert.
Poor Aunt. He died instantly. But she had to think of him in agony for days because we wouldn’t come out with the information we had.
Oh, that was likely a lie.
I’ve been in Pennsylvania during mining accidents, and I recall a cave in in southwest Missouri. On top of what we’ve been told about the Indonesian mine collapse that Elon musk attempted to help.
I have yet to find inside information that makes me feel good about these rescue missions.
That, and the media is on full alert about hunter biden.
The Navy KNEW on Sunday it had imploded they heard it!! I wondered why the Navy refused to join in the search THAT IS WHY!! The media and WH kept up this entire charade to take the news OFF of Hunter and Joe!! OMG everyday our entire government becomes WAG THE DOG!!
When a submarine hull collapses, it moves inward at about 2,200 fps. The time required for complete collapse is about one millisecond. A human brain responds instinctually to a stimulus at about 25 milliseconds. Human rational response - from sensing to acting - is believed to be at best 150 milliseconds.I could see Navy submarines having some hydrocarbon vapors, but a "high concentration"? Submariners could not breathe air with a high concentration. I doubt that there were any combustible hydrocarbons on the "Titan," either (unless you count the human body as a "combustible hydrocarbon").The air inside a [I presume Naval] sub has a fairly high concentration of hydrocarbon vapors. When the hull collapses, the air auto-ignites and an explosion follows the initial rapid implosion. Human bodies incinerate and are turned to ash and dust instantly.
But the rapid compression and instantaneous temperature rise to hundreds of degrees C might auto-ignite the human body. But the human body has such a high water concentration that it would need to desiccate before it could ignite. I doubt the body would have enough time to desiccate and auto-ignite before being quenched by the water.
The other difference between a Naval submarine and the "Titan" is the former is made from somewhat ductile metals whereas the Titan's hull was made from brittle carbon fiber. I expect that cause a completely different failure mode than a metal submarine hull.
It's an interesting (but ghoulish) exercise to think about from an engineering perspective and conjecture what happened in the final few milliseconds.
Not from what I’ve gleaned from similar accidents
I read about one guy sucked through a ten inch port hole
You can do that gory math
Maybe the folks i pinged know better
If not impacted by structure constraints I’d imagine the 5800 pounds per inch destroys your corpse
I’ve seen a styrofoam big gulp at that depth reduced in perfect shape to a thimble size
Pretty destructive
That tanker car experienced only 15 PSI.
Promoters of descents by submersible to the wreck site can now promote two wrecks for the price of one specials.
Nanoseconds is a lot shorter than an implosion. Milliseconds is what you are looking for.
Not a peep from or about Suleman’s mother.
Guess they’re permanently bonded now.
Well he didn’t mean it literally.
The Titanic claims 5 more souls.
And their final destination depends on what their relationship with God was at that last moment...
Like it or not, believe it or not, we'll all answer to God one day.
What she’s not saying is they weren’t close relatives at all...in fact distant.
I absolutely believe in that. I wish we could see more of the judgement in the here and now so it wouldn’t be so heartbreakingly discouraging, but I also know that’s not our call.
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