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California’s imaginary solar-powered bullet train
washingtonexaminer.com ^ | June 16, 2023 | Jack Elbaum

Posted on 06/18/2023 8:45:29 PM PDT by lowbridge

When California voters passed a referendum in 2008 to construct a high-speed rail connecting Los Angeles to San Francisco, there was no shortage of skeptics. Forty-seven percent of the state voted against the plan, and a group of think tanks issued a nearly 200-page report that year arguing costs would skyrocket, ridership would not match projections, and the environmental benefits were overstated.

The skeptics, of course, have been vindicated. But few thought it would be as bad as it has since turned out to be. Fifteen years, and countless setbacks later, not a single mile of track has been laid, and estimated costs have risen to $128 billion — or $200 million per mile. There is no money left, and even the secretary of the California State Transportation Agency now admits, “We can’t get this project done without federal support. It’s just not going to happen.“

Nevertheless, Forbes reported last week that the California High-Speed Rail Authority now plans for the entire project to be powered by solar energy once it is complete because…why not? After all, it is not as if this bullet train is ever going to exist anyway. As such, its visionaries certainly have an interest in periodically devising new, wholly unrealistic schemes that appeal to those who voted for it as a way of distracting from their incompetence.

Forbes noted the plan includes “552 acres of solar panels generating 44 megawatts of electricity” and that “work could begin by 2026 to ensure it’s ready to power trains by 2030.” But anybody paying attention to the progress made thus far knows this is a pipe dream for a few reasons.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Travel
KEYWORDS: california; rail; scam; trains
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1 posted on 06/18/2023 8:45:29 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

“not a single mile of track has been laid”

the ultimate in eco friendly transportation

great job guys ...keep it up


2 posted on 06/18/2023 9:02:52 PM PDT by 1of10 (be vigilant , be strong, be safe, be 1 of 10 .)
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To: lowbridge

“Nevertheless, Forbes reported last week that the California High-Speed Rail Authority now plans for the entire project to be powered by solar energy”

Great, now one would have to check weather conditions and verify that their train is scheduled during daytime hours.

Absolutely ridiculous.


3 posted on 06/18/2023 9:08:20 PM PDT by BobL
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To: lowbridge

A bullet powered solar train would probably work better.


4 posted on 06/18/2023 9:15:48 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: lowbridge

The train to no where, no track, just ugly concrete columns by the hwy 99.


5 posted on 06/18/2023 9:38:42 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: lowbridge
a high-speed rail connecting Los Angeles to San Francisco

No one wants to go to San Francisco anymore.

6 posted on 06/18/2023 9:49:35 PM PDT by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: lowbridge

Please build it. Go broke.


7 posted on 06/18/2023 11:24:13 PM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It ( )
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To: lowbridge
Fifteen years, and countless setbacks later, not a single mile of track has been laid, and estimated costs have risen to $128 billion — or $200 million per mile. There is no money left, and even the secretary of the California State Transportation Agency now admits, “We can’t get this project done without federal support. It’s just not going to happen.“

We're seeing more California license plates in Florida...

8 posted on 06/19/2023 1:00:15 AM PDT by GOPJ (Black thugs, white liberal 'elites', and sexual weirdos are the democrat team against the rest of us)
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To: lowbridge

A while back, I heard a story that California’s so-called “High Speed Rail Authority” hired a bunch of executives from France’s high-speed TGV system to come over and consult on the project. After a month or two, the Frenchies quit en masse. The Frogs said that the project was a total waste of time, as the Californians running it were uniformly incompetent morons.


9 posted on 06/19/2023 1:17:18 AM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: lowbridge

Biden says no help for trains in California as all fed money to be used building a rail line across the Indian Ocean, when that’s done, elevators to the moon and to Mars and beyond.


10 posted on 06/19/2023 1:35:57 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Celebrating 42 years of sobriety this year, thank you Heavenly Father.)
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To: irishjuggler

One of the great things about America that has been noticed over the years by foreign visitors is that things work.

You heard it over and over again from visitors: Things just worked.

It wasn’t perfect, but it was a meritocracy, driven by the profit motive.

No more.

California is the perfect example of why things are working less and less.

And in the next serious shooting war we get in, we are going to see what that lack of meritocracy has done to the military as well.


11 posted on 06/19/2023 3:59:27 AM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: lowbridge

Of the $128B to $200B cost estimate which by the usual government estimatess is always way under actuals, how much has been spent in the last 15 years getting nothing done?


12 posted on 06/19/2023 4:04:04 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: MileHi

No one wants to go to San Francisco anymore.

High speed train to Hell


13 posted on 06/19/2023 6:18:06 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: BobL
Great, now one would have to check weather conditions and verify that their train is scheduled during daytime hours.

Absolutely ridiculous.

You have some info that some form of energy storage won't be used?

14 posted on 06/19/2023 7:21:37 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

“You have some info that some form of energy storage won’t be used?”

They say it’s solar, nothing about batteries or other energy storage...and I doubt they will have any storage, since the cost of that, if reliable power is desired, is at least 5 times what solar alone costs.


15 posted on 06/19/2023 7:27:56 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Graybeard58

“elevators to the moon and to Mars and beyond”

Contractors are drooling at the thought of getting trillions in federal funds!


16 posted on 06/19/2023 7:33:07 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: lowbridge

The best part of the article is the picture of the scale model “train” in front of the state Capitol building.

It is like a big sign screaming “We are con artists here.”


17 posted on 06/19/2023 7:36:13 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: BobL
They say it’s solar, nothing about batteries or other energy storage

Sorry, Bob, that's ridiculous to think the plan is for trains to run only in sunshine.
I do think the whole plan is stupid but lame arguments like yours just make you look dumb.

18 posted on 06/19/2023 7:58:49 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

“Sorry, Bob, that’s ridiculous to think the plan is for trains to run only in sunshine. I do think the whole plan is stupid but lame arguments like yours just make you look dumb.”

I do know a bit, but I’m just taking them at their word. If they’re not going to say that they’re using the Grid as a BACKUP, if not the primary source (which is obviously the case), then I’ll hit them on it...because going to renewables, as in carbon-free, is NOT as simple as the media wants people to think - it is a LOT MORE than hanging a few panels on the top of a train, and that little detail will soon be sending us into the STONE AGE.


19 posted on 06/19/2023 8:04:34 AM PDT by BobL
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To: 1of10

Isn’t it about time to give up the ghost on this fiasco & start figuring how to refund all the money that’s been spent on it so far?


20 posted on 06/19/2023 7:48:30 PM PDT by oldtech
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