Posted on 06/17/2023 5:37:06 PM PDT by Jonty30
There is a belief in Judaism that the spirit of Esau resides in Western culture. They believe that the heir to the Edomites was Rome. The heir to Rome was Western Europe and the heir to Western Europe was the United States.
Consequently, they believe that the West must be subjugated in order to be ruled by them, just as the Bible foretells that the descendants of Esau would be ruled by the descendants of Jacob.
It also explains why the globalists are intending to destroy white people, because it's an outworking of the Jacob-Esau dynamic in the mind of Jews who believe this.
https://odysee.com/@R.A.I.N.:0/Rabbis-fantasize-about-the-Destruction-of-America-and-Christianity:9?r=7dTg87TsiQMVUynmWi6N4e8cFFiueqQ9&fbclid=IwAR1btQaPKjOnPvAr3kI0FrPZ3avo-gdKIgI1oH0DyxJCT-GVdIZHksh9Fig
To be clear, I believe in the prophecy of Noah, about people being brought together and working together to bring this world to its potential, but I believe it will be Jesus that does this and we cannot create this desired ourselves.
All we can do is lead righteous lives and wait on the Messiah to do this for us.
Esau is the bear nation.
But they believe prophetically that Jews would be contending with Esau’s descendants right until the coming of the Messiah. Obviously, it is meant in terms of spirit and not literal, as the nation of Esau ended.
The literal descendants are the other tribes of the ME. As far as โspiritโ the enemy and his minions have full run of this world right now.
The bear nation still is alive and is still jealous that Jacob ended up with the blessing after Esau sold his birthright. It is recorded in the old and new that God loved Jacob and he hated Esau.. Even before they took this flesh journey.. Esau did not care about his birthright..
That was my understanding as well, but the undercurrent thought amoung some rabbis is that the entirety of the West much be brought down. They think the spiritual descendants of Esau is the West, not just the seculars of the West.
.0001% of any group has very nutty ideas.
If you believe one out of 1,000 Jews have even heard of such a crazy thing, much less believe it, you are seriously out of touch with reality. Seek psychiatric help. Or at least have a chat with your pastor. Or talk to your Jewish friends, or find some Jewish friends.
"Esau/Edom is the implacable enemy of the Jew.." (Tovia Singer @ min 3:40)
Well you know what they say,
People are their own worst enemies! ๐ฟ๐ฟ
"On the road again. I just can't wait to get on the road again." ~ Willie Nelson
All roads lead to Rome (secular proverb, something about a milestone)
All of Scripture leads to Christ (Christian teaching)
The Messiah at the Gates of Rome (Jewish Mashal)
A story is told in the Talmud:1 Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi meets Elijah the Prophet and asks, "When will Mashiach come?"
Elijah responds, "Why are you asking me? You can ask Mashiach himself."
"Really?! Where can I find Mashiach?"
Elijah tells him, "Go to the gates of Rome and there you'll find him."
Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi thinks for a moment. "Fine, but there are many people at the gates of Rome. How will I know which one is Mashiach?"
"He will be sitting amongst the poor people who are enduring pain and suffering."
So Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi presses, "There are many people suffering and in pain. How will I know who Mashiach is?"https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/137086/jewish/Nun.htm
The line goes like this:
Esau ---> Rome ---> Christianity ---> Western Civ ---> USA as the head
And here we are.
Rome:
ืจืืื
Google translate also offers:
ืึฑืืึนื
Edom, Rome
The dalet [ื] and the resh [ืจ] are very [ืืืื] famous for being "look-a-like" letters.
How many [more] ways to permute Rome?
"light, luminary"
Strong's Number H3974 matches the Hebrew ืึธืืึนืจ (mฤ'รดr), which occurs 19 times in 16 verses in the WLC Hebrew.
"From the light", ืืืืจ:
... "Three come unawares: the Messiah, a found article [metziah - a find, a bargain], and a scorpion."9 At first glance, this statement raises a question: What does it mean that the Messiah comes unawares? After all, there are always Jews who pray for, talk about, and concern themselves with his coming. The entire Jewish people mentions the Messiah, in one form or another, in its prayers. So how can it be that he will come unawares?
The answer is that the Messiah whom everyone talks about, and whose coming everyone prays for, is not the Messiah who will actually arrive. We have no way of knowing or imagining what will happen when the Messiah comes, because his coming is something that "no eye has seen." It is inevitable, then, that the Messiah will come unawares, because no one really knows what to expect.
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/4973831/jewish/The-Concealed-End-of-Times.htm
"YOUR SURPRISE IS WAITING"
(This ubiquitous sign message literally comes from out of the blue.)
Haha, watch how everyone's going to learn to get along already. Ouch:
Psalm 133
1 A Song of Maalot of David; Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brothers to dwell together in unity:
2. It is like the precious ointment upon the head, that runs down upon the beard, Aaron's beard, that runs down to the hem of his garments:
3. Like the dew of Hermon descending upon the mountains of Zion*; for there the Lord has commanded the blessing, life for evermore:
* "We've got a long way to go and short time to get there."
๐ค Word of the Day: square [ืจืืืืข] = 288, one short of 172.
It's always something.
Recall that Boston (complete with its own eponymous 'milestone' twinset of dubious identity over on 9 Marshall St, which is located in the original 'old city') = 133 [ืืืกืืื].
What will you love today?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Marshalls_HomeGoods_TJMaxx_Boston_Downtown_Crossing.jpg
(350 Washington St)
"Inspiring finds" ๐ฆ
Hinei ma tov...
Holy Moses were any Orthodox Jews consulted for statements?
We want the Kingdom of G-d revealed on earth. What do you want Jonty30?
What will that look like? Will you care about baseball and apple pie? The red, white, and blue? Or are you open to a G-dly (real) utopia?
I don’t think anyone’s status quo will quite hold up at that point.
Yes— Torah-believing Jews equate the West and Christianity with Esau. And we say some pretty powerful (and positive) things about Esau too— but’s it’s kabbalistic and “from the rabbis.” Wanna hear it?
The West is more likely the heir to Judas.
Look for stubborn donkey people that are always a pain in the as to the Hebrews.
Id love to hear it. Im just trying to understand this puzzle thatbis before me to put it in context.
It is not meant to bevan attack on antbody. I came across this information that are being admitted by Jews I recognize and I just want to know what it means.
Is socialism a Khabbalistic Jewish project meant to bring down the West to try and fulfill the Noahic prophect? I knew sicialism to be a Jewish project to destroy the West, but I thought it was a secular Jewish project. I didn’t understand that it might be man’s attempt to fulfill prophecy.
Holy Moses were any Orthodox Jews consulted for statements?
We want the Kingdom of G-d revealed on earth.
Everyone is blind because they are too busy staring at their phones... completely disconnected from the reality on the ground. The signs are everywhere, yet...?
Why was the prophecy of Moshiach's coming voiced by a wicked, Jew-hating person like Balaam?
Just to add fuel to the fire, this prophecy is found in the portion of Balak, named after a wicked, Jew-hating king. There are no mitzvahs in this parshah, and it ends with the Jewish people reaching a new low. As far as Torah portions go, this one seems to be the lowest.
The lowest! It doesn't get any lower than that!
Balak: ืืืง
Go ahead and call him:
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"How amazing are the Jewish people? Through us, the lowest, darkest situations and most evil people can and will be transformed to goodness and light. We are truly amazing."
You can even reveal the ืงืฅ by phone, because where we're going we don't need roads:
Back to the Future, Part I: The Ending Scene (1985) [HD]
"Something has gotta be done about your ketz.."
"Gummy bear?"
I speak from the point of Torah-observant (”Orthodox”.... your friendly modern Pharisees) Jews.
There is nothing innately socialist about Judaism. We believe in private property, tort law— heck, all modern jurisprudence is based on the Talmudic interpretation of “eye for an eye.” (as proof this is not a literal verse— what do you do if a blind person damages someone’s eye? The guilty party has no more eyes to take out.) Therefore the Talmud explains the system of fines for injury, pain, lost future income, and embarrassment.
You may have an idea that since Karl Marx was Jewish— all marxism and spin-offs must be Jewish ideas... Not true. After all, Marx was certainly not an observant Jew and just because the Jews have a disproportionate effect on the world compared to our numbers, doesn’t mean that the vast majority of socialists, communists, and of course Democrats— are Jews. In fact they are an overwhelming majority of gentiles.
Research “Fabian socialists” for more on the very non-Jewish origins of modern European socialist democratic thought, such as that that plagues the US today (though marxism is their DNA....still not Jewish)
Ok— the juicy Esau-is-Rome-is-The West-is-Christian America stuff. I said there is a power in Esau. To scratch the surface of oceans of depth of Kabbalistic writing— because we can’t cover a few years of introduction to Kabbala here— “Isaac loved Esau.” (Gen 25:28) Why? Was he fooled by Esau? Did he not know Esau was a murderer and rapist? Hold that thought. (Isaac DID know the truth about Esau and a deeper truth about his source.)
The Torah says the world was chaos and void. I know the NIV sayd “formless and empty” (Gen 1:2) but the Hebrew is TOHU and VOHU... Chaos and void (emptiness is ok here.) The Kabbalists teach that THIS world of ours if not G-d’s first rodeo. That He created a world first— but one where, and we have to detour again, where His “Spheres”... His “attributes” were in series, not parallel (if you’re an electrical engineer.) What are those characteristics— and this I will grant is a MAJOR reason why Jews are loathe to explain to Christians, because it’s so tantalizingly moldable to a trinity— Chochma, Binah, Daat, Chessed, Gevurah, Tiferet, Netzach, Hod, Yesod, Malchut. Ten attributes with which G-d chooses to manifest in creation. Of course He could have created the world any way He wanted to, but this is what we live with.
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/361885/jewish/The-Sefirot.htm
The EMOTIONAL attributes are the last seven of these ten. Kindness, Strength, Beauty/Mercy, Victory, Splendor, Foundation/connection, Kingship/leadership. The translations are difficult... study Hebrew a few decades it will be clearer and more ethereal at the same time. Torah assigns these emotional attributes to the Forefathers. Abraham is Kindness. Isaac is Strength.... who would be Beauty/Mercy?
G-d created a world, say the Kabbalists, where these attributes did not integrate. These attributes are represented as “G-dly light” that shines from G-d’s infinite source (even Christians call it a “Godhead” but I am not vouching for their theology. From the infinite source comes “infinite light” filtered through (or expressing as) these attributes. In this first world, or in some views simply, the world before ours (and leaving it open that there are more or even infinite “attempts”) the light of each attribute did not integrate and therefore the world “shattered.” And became CHAOS and VOID. The “power” often times called “sparks” (nitzutzot) of that world “fell” into ours. [ask your local neighborhood Kabbalist about “refining and sifting the sparks within our world” it’s what Jews accomplish when fulfilling commandments of G-d, Kabbalisticly... a far cry from “keeping the Law” isn’t it?]
Esau is rooted in this powerful pre-world. Isaac saw this force within him. Isaac wanted to bring out this latent power into actual power— a messianic ability.
The Kabbalists refer to the powerful light of the pre-world as Lights of Chaos. They refer to the vessels that contain the creative, integrated light of our world as “vessels of repairing.” (tikun, in Hebrew) The challenge is that the “vessels,” physicality, of our world is so strong, that it hides the G-dly light completely. When you know Hebrew you know the secrets-— the word for WORLD in Hebrew is OLAM. The word for CONCEALMENT in Hebrew is ELAM. The consonants are identical but the unwritten vowel sounds are interchangeable. So G-d is “concealed” (hidden) in the WORLD. It’s amazing when you know the Hebrew.
When the Messiah comes, to Jews, we will have the Lights of CHAOS perfectly contained in the Vessels of Repair.... and we will see the perfect G-dliness within every aspect of physicality. “From my flesh I see G-d....” (Job 19:26.)
So it can be easily twisted as “Those darn Jews equate Christians as Esau.... no wonder they killed god...” But on a deeper truer inspection, Esau tells Jacob “Let’s go together to [to Seir]” Gen 33:12. This is the power of Esau telling Jacob— Let’s do what dad wants. Let’s reveal my power now. Jacob answers...”I will go slowly” (Gen 33:14) Meaning— I’m gonna take 3000 years or so. The Lights of CHAOS will be revealed in the Vessels of REPAIR much later—For in truth Jacob is Beauty/Mercy, And G-d willing, let it be this very evening.
In reflection, there is so much strife on FR between sects and religions (let alone MAGA vs DeSantis... ;) )
And as I once ended with Greetings_Puny_Humans (on FR...haven’t seen him in a while) Christians and Jews both want the revelation of G-d on earth. You have your idea of the goodness and kindness that it will take to make Jesus return.... We have our way of “bringing Moshiach” (for the first and only time) and as far as American citizenship goes— it means acting as a civil, moral society. As far as preaching goes— we can only put our best foot forward.
Phinneous
The Torah says the world was chaos and void. I know the NIV sayd "formless and empty" (Gen 1:2) but the Hebrew is TOHU and VOHU... Chaos and void (emptiness is ok here.) The Kabbalists teach that THIS world of ours if not G-d's first rodeo. That He created a world first -- but one where, and we have to detour again, where His "Spheres"... His "attributes" were in series, not parallel (if you're an electrical engineer.) What are those characteristics-- and this I will grant is a MAJOR reason why Jews are loathe to explain to Christians, because it's so tantalizingly moldable to a trinity -- Chochma, Binah, Daat, Chessed, Gevurah, Tiferet, Netzach, Hod, Yesod, Malchut. Ten attributes with which G-d chooses to manifest in creation. Of course He could have created the world any way He wanted to, but this is what we live with.
On the engineering front... I think of Kabbalah in terms of a schematic diagram 'code' system for describing and mapping character traits and integrated spiritual concepts -- cause and effect and all of that. An incomplete explanation, and maybe that looks like gibberish, but from my view, the abstract *is* the concrete thinking. Everything has a blueprint, a plan. The functioning material world starts with a good idea. Words start with a bag of letters that don't actually say anything on their own. Then they form longer strings, to become messengers of thoughts and dreams, ideas and directives . Yet identical words and phrases can have vastly different meanings.
If Uncle Bob says, "Get out of here!" you'd better get off his lawn and fast.
If Aunt Cathy says, "Get out of here!" she's in disbelief about something she just heard.
It all depends... on who's saying it, and if the hearer knows the person.. or even wants to know or desires to understand (versus jumping to conclusions). Text lacks important qualities of voice, facial expressions, and body language. When strangers started chatting on the internet, uh oh. Thus evolved expressions using keyboard characters, and beyond. I'm stating the obvious, but in all of that I'd wondered how the entire Bible would radically change without changing at all. A sudden change of perspective could be shocking. A real delight of a discovery, or a scorpion sting. I suppose it depends if people are open to 'new' possibilities that had been there all along. The elusive -- suddenly tangible.
Even "tohu v'vohu", what to do about that? Let there be light, and there was light. The Aha moment of epiphany, the instant "I get it" revelation. Then it's off to go... "do".
Nobody would sneer at a circuit diagram or a set of blueprints because of the many 'mysterious' symbols, yet 'Kabbalah' really gets the treatment. Easier to point to Madonna and laugh. Kind of like seeing a toddler poking a fork into an electrical outlet, or watching Aunt Bethany's cat chew on the light strings, as proof that electricity needs killing.
The EMOTIONAL attributes are the last seven of these ten. Kindness, Strength, Beauty/Mercy, Victory, Splendor, Foundation/connection, Kingship/leadership. The translations are difficult... study Hebrew a few decades it will be clearer and more ethereal at the same time. Torah assigns these emotional attributes to the Forefathers. Abraham is Kindness. Isaac is Strength.... who would be Beauty/Mercy?
That's a funny question because there's the published answer and volumes of study material for every aspect. And then there's the attribute (of Tiferet) that ended up on a simple business sign, without any awareness of Hebrew. I would compare a master craftsmen having no need of all the how-to manuals, because he *is* all of the manuals. The books were created off of what he knows and does already.
Anyone can hang up a sign and make a claim, but as Jesus said, "Believe the works."
As I've said a few times around here, if the Messiah believed the settled doctrines (one comes to mind in particular), he wouldn't be able to recognize himself. (That would create yet solve a lot of problems at the same time.)
All the material is for building, so as long as you dropped in with Yesod and Malchut,
Shin is for Shaddai so if you have a copy of HaRav Ginsburgh's Alef-Beit, see page 314. If Google Books is in a good mood, here's the link.
"The three vavs come to a point in the secret of the union of yesod and malchut, personified by Joseph and David"
I can't go into all of the detail involved, but this jumped out for what is not mentioned (so I'll mention it -- it's what I've seen):
The internal letters of sod is malchut, and if you add the yud for "yesod", the internal letters of yesod say "Malchut Do" (it's an interplanetary, multi-lingual project of coordinating all of humanity).
The language integration is validated because it *is* the simple meaning of Asiya, the world of action, of Malchut, David. (Not complicated in the schematic of the thing, is it.) "Do" dalet-vav -- the first two letters of David, and the root meaning of Esav, to make, to DO.
Thus, "the secret [ืกืื] of the union of yesod [ืืกืื] and malchut [ืืืืืช] " is literal. A little kid playing with refrigerator magnets can do [ืื] it -- action as the childs' play down on the floor:
ืืื ืกืื ืื ืืืช
the light of each attribute did not integrate and therefore the world "shattered." And became CHAOS and VOID. The "power" often times called "sparks" (nitzutzot) of that world "fell" into ours. [ask your local neighborhood Kabbalist about "refining and sifting the sparks within our world" it's what Jews accomplish when fulfilling commandments of G-d, Kabbalisticly...
Solve and dissolve: to solve is to dissolve, to first break down and study the individual components to see what's wrong at a fundamental level. Then go up from there.
A shattered (as described, not even my own word for it) structure from a fall -- it's truly a living parable as the literal meaning over on this end, so there's always a reason. Insight is a big one.
Esau is rooted in this powerful pre-world. Isaac saw this force within him. Isaac wanted to bring out this latent power into actual power-- a messianic ability.
Malchut "DO" as lightly addressed above. Also your comments are found in that page about the letter shin and change. Even the coal is a play on kol with a kaf, and kol with a kuf.
You've even seen the double sign about the two powers/forces (Swartz & Swartz, because Spaceballs was seen from space)
When you know Hebrew you know the secrets-- the word for WORLD in Hebrew is OLAM. The word for CONCEALMENT in Hebrew is ELAM. The consonants are identical but the unwritten vowel sounds are interchangeable. So G-d is "concealed" (hidden) in the WORLD. It's amazing when you know the Hebrew.
The root concept even goes back to a vanishing point, like the end point apex of a road or train tracks that actually goes on forever.
Top of the world. Seen the "Deliverer" in the clip from Smokey and the Bandit? It was the orange ALLIED VAN LINES truck, "Fisher & Brother". Iconic, not an obscure reference. Pure Americana in the annals of history. Who's looking there? I am, because the logo is Highway 1, in the vanishing point perspective, like the head of Joseph:
ALLIED VANISHING LINES
"This is not a convoy. This is a dream."
~ The Bandit
Gen 45
25. And they went up from Egypt, and came to the land of Canaan to Jacob their father:
26. And told him, saying, Joseph is yet alive, and he is governor over all the land of Egypt; And Jacob's heart fainted, for he believed them not:
27. And they told him all the words of Joseph, which he had said to them; and when he saw the wagons which Joseph had sent to carry him, the spirit of Jacob their father revived:
28. And Israel said, It is enough; Joseph my son is yet alive; I will go and see him before I die:
World's No. 1 Mover:
U.S. Route 1 or U.S. Highway 1 (US 1) is a major north--south United States Numbered Highway that serves the East Coast of the United States. It runs 2,370 miles (3,810 km) from Key West, Florida, north to Fort Kent, Maine, at the Canadian border, making it the longest north--south road in the United States.
South to North: FLA-ME ๐ฅ
When the Messiah comes, to Jews, we will have the Lights of CHAOS perfectly contained in the Vessels of Repair.... and we will see the perfect G-dliness within every aspect of physicality. "From my flesh I see G-d...."(Job 19:26.)
Contemplating the Divine
Job, in his suffering, said, โFrom my flesh, I envision God.โ14 This verse15 is interpreted inChasidut to mean that the way to โenvision Godโ16,17 is through the contemplation of oneโs own flesh, where โfleshโ here represents the fabric of oneโs subjective experience.>>>
16. In this verse, the Hebrew word for โI shall envisionโ is ืืืื . As opposed to its synonym, โI shall seeโ (ืืจืื ), which denotes direct, physical vision, this word (ืืืื ) implies prophetic, spiritual, and (usually) indirect vision viewed through the lens of a material or spiritual parable. In this case, the parable through which the vision is seen is the human flesh, whether in the sense of body or of soul. Significantly, this wordโs grammatical root in Hebrew is ืืื , which, as a noun, means โchest.โ In Kabbalah, the chest is considered the seat of the spiritual eye of the heart (the heart of flesh, as will be explained).
https://www.inner.org/torah_and_science/psychology/anatomy-of-the-soul/root-of-the-soul.php
So it can be easily twisted as "Those darn Jews equate Christians as Esau.... no wonder they killed god..." But on a deeper truer inspection, Esau tells Jacob "Let's go together to [to Seir]" Gen 33:12. This is the power of Esau telling Jacob-- Let's do what dad wants. Let's reveal my power now. Jacob answers..."I will go slowly" (Gen 33:14) Meaning-- I'm gonna take 3000 years or so. The Lights of CHAOS will be revealed in the Vessels of REPAIR much later--For in truth Jacob is Beauty/Mercy, And G-d willing, let it be this very evening.
We've got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
Let's go together [to see her] (shin is for Shekinah) --
Isaac, "he will laugh". You know that phone keypad with the Hebrew letters for Hebrew phonewords? It's funny -- to dial into Israel is to dial Esau (ืขืฉื 972).
From the US:
First dial 011, the U.S. exit code. Next dial 972, the country code for Israel.
Adds up to 983, machatzit hashekel.
(See, you just never know what you're going to get from me.)
Re: strife. Debates aren't an exchange of ideas (actual learning), they're endless sales pitches.. Everyone is right because everyone else is wrong.
I'd say I don't get it but I do. It's like a dog chasing a car. Game Over if he catches the car. Same with a lot of topics of 'interest'. Game Over when the day actually arrives.
Meanwhile, lost in a US government warehouse, or
The mystery of the Great Pyramid of Kufu. Now that's *really* funny. I'll have to toss that one some place around here. Opportunity will surely knock.
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