[SunkenCiv]

A short edit of video clips from this years excavations. [Screenshot/Youtube/FlindersUniversityNews]

Tam Pa Ling Excavations 2023 | 1:03
Flinders University News | 77 subscribers | 127 views | June 13, 2023

[jimmygrace]

It’s ... aliens!

[Red Badger]

BUT THE SCIENCE WAS SETTLED!.......................until it wasn’t..................

[IYAS9YAS]

Were they Chinese or Japanese?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Zo-CxHxDTc

[econjack]

Hmmm...I’ll bet they’re illegal immigrants.

[Doctor Congo]

(use your Batman narrator voice) Meanwhile back in Arabia at the same bat time...

Finger fossil puts people in Arabia at least 86,000 years ago
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/finger-fossil-puts-people-arabia-least-86000-years-ago
A single human finger bone from at least 86,000 years ago points to Arabia as a key destination for Stone Age excursions out of Africa that allowed people to rapidly spread across Asia.

Excavations at Al Wusta, a site in Saudi Arabia’s Nefud desert, produced this diminutive discovery. It’s the oldest known Homo sapiens fossil outside of Africa and the narrow strip of the Middle East that joins Africa with Asia, based on dating of the bone itself, says a team led by archaeologists Huw Groucutt and Michael Petraglia. This new find strengthens the idea that early human dispersals out of Africa began well before the traditional estimated departure time of 60,000 years ago and extended deep into Arabia, the scientists report April 9 in Nature Ecology & Evolution.

[FarCenter]

Early presence of Homo sapiens in Southeast Asia by 86–68 kyr at Tam Pà Ling, Northern Laos

Abstract

The timing of the first arrival of Homo sapiens in East Asia from Africa and the degree to which they interbred with or replaced local archaic populations is controversial. Previous discoveries from Tam Pà Ling cave (Laos) identified H. sapiens in Southeast Asia by at least 46 kyr. We report on a recently discovered frontal bone (TPL 6) and tibial fragment (TPL 7) found in the deepest layers of TPL. Bayesian modeling of luminescence dating of sediments and U-series and combined U-series-ESR dating of mammalian teeth reveals a depositional sequence spanning ~86 kyr. TPL 6 confirms the presence of H. sapiens by 70 ± 3 kyr, and TPL 7 extends this range to 77 ± 9 kyr, supporting an early dispersal of H. sapiens into Southeast Asia. Geometric morphometric analyses of TPL 6 suggest descent from a gracile immigrant population rather than evolution from or admixture with local archaic populations.

Introduction

Current genetic and fossil evidence points to an African origin of Homo sapiens around 300 kyr1,2. The number, timing, and route(s) of human dispersals out of Africa into Eurasia is intensely debated (see refs. 3,4,5,6 for review) with dispersal models falling into two broad categories: an early dispersal during Marine Isotope Stage (MIS) 5 (~130–80 kyr) and a late dispersal occurring in a post-MIS 5 time frame3. Genomic evidence strongly supports a single rapid dispersal of all ancestral non-African H. sapiens populations after 50–60 kyr, followed by a divergence of descendant groups westward into Europe and eastward into South Asia1,7,8. While there is some genetic evidence supporting a separate, early worldwide expansion of H. sapiens in present-day Australasian populations (i.e., Australians, New Guineans and Asian Negrito)9,10,11,12, recent genomic studies on ancient and extant humans suggest that if there was any genetic contribution of such early dispersals to present-day populations, it was not substantial, being less than 1%13,14,15,16,17,18.

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Open access at https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-38715-y

[DannyTN]

Takeaways include:

• Modern humans have time travelled back as much as 86,000 years ago.
• Modern humans mated with archaic humans 18,000 years later. Or earlier... you know humans.
• Perhaps archaic humans are actually an example of de-evolution. Man isn't coming from the apes, he's going to them.
• There was a flood event. I'm always suspicious of dating techniques due to the ability of things to leach in and out of materials.
• Asian people may have fled Asia and become Africans prior to the Out of Africa hypothesis.

[DannyTN]

If modern humans predate archaic humans, then maybe we are the archaic humans.

Archaic humans can survive!!!

[minnesota_bound]

I do not think africa was THE origin of man, just had the best preserved bones.

[Deplorable American1776]

Governor Newsome ancestor raised taxes, so they moved to a low tax area headed by Ron DeSantis ancestor! 🤓

[Bob Ireland]

***these remains may be from some of the first humans to enter southeast Asia after leaving Africa... ***

Always humans originated in Africa.

Good ol' Lucy!