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To: mass55th
Did you work to get yourself thru Harvard coming from a Blue Collar humble background and a small town ?
Did you join the military to get ahead and become a officer?
Did you fight to get ahead in the world like Desantis and not because of affirmative Action ?
Versus
Did Dad Got you five military deferments by connections to avoid the Draft ?
Did Dad leave you 450 Million ?
I like a Self Made Man not a Rich Kid .
30 posted on 06/12/2023 5:03:37 PM PDT by ncalburt ( Gop DC Globalists are the evil)
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To: ncalburt

“I like a Self Made Man not a Rich Kid”

Utterly irrelevant.

Who is going to save this nation?

Who has been brutalized and keeps coming back swinging?

Who has proven with policy and action he represents all I believe?

Who can’t be bought?

You are short sighted.

Litterally no person should have to suffer your unreasoned opinion.

Your stance will surely lead to America’s total collapse.

With that, what side are you on?


37 posted on 06/12/2023 5:35:41 PM PDT by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh (wake me up when somebody tells the truth)
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To: ncalburt
Sounds like you're jealous that Trump had a father that helped him make something of himself. Everybody had the option to serve or not serve. I won't hold it against someone who chose not to enlist for the proxy war we fought with China and Russia in Vietnam. Trump didn't have to go to Harvard to get an education. His draft number was so high, that he was never going to be reached for the draft anyway, so any deferment he had was moot. You would begrudge someone for choosing to get an education to better themselves, and not volunteer to get shot by your own people in the jungles of Vietnam?

I do hold it against Bill Clinton for dodging the draft. He received his draft notice, and used his connections to get permission to join the ROTC at the University of Arkansas law school. Then when he received a number that would have ensured that he would not be selected, he reneged on the commitment to join the ROTC with no penalty. And then on top of it, while at Oxford, Clinton went to Moscow for vacation, and partied there while members of our military were being shot at with ammunition supplied by Russia to the Viet Cong. I also had two uncles who served in the U.S. Army in WWII overseas. I had a great-uncle in Canada who served in the 38th Battalion C.E.F. in WWI. He was shot and killed in France two months before the Armistice.

DeSantis like Beau Biden received a Bronze Star for sitting on their asses in an office overseas, giving advice, and prosecuting other military members. Tough job that is. Never saw any actual action. Tell me that DeSantis, like Beau Biden didn't have a sugar daddy while in the service? People don't get Bronze Stars for being a lawyer or advisor. It cheapens the award for someone who actually performed meritorious service to earn it. Showing up for work isn't an accomplishment that warrants a Bronze Star.

My brother enlisted in the U.S. Army, and served I Vietnam '65-'67. He got medals, but he didn't get a Bronze Star, because he didn't sit on his ass in the jungles of Vietnam. All he'd ever wanted to do was be a soldier from the time he was a little boy. He fulfilled his dream, but found out that the war was a joke. He was shot at more times by his own military, than by the enemy. He said it was a good thing that the gooks couldn't shoot straight, and that if he died, it would probably be from friendly fire. He died at the young age of 51.

I grew up in a middle-class home in Rochester, NY. We never had a car growing up. My father came to this country as a little boy from Holland with his parents and two brothers in 1912. He worked as a laborer, and track foreman for over 50 years. My mother came to this country as a little girl with her slightly older brother, and mother from Canada. She was a housewife who took in laundry, and cleaned houses to bring in extra money. I never knew any of my grandparents as they were all dead by the time I was born in 1947.

I was one of four children...the baby. When I graduated from high school in 1965, if a female went into the military, she was considered a dyke, and college for most females wasn't pushed or expected. About your only option back then was to get married, and have a family. I'm a 75 year old divorced mother of two sons. My youngest son is a cancer survivor. I had my first son when I was 19. I worked in uniform for 25 years for the NY State Department of Corrections. I only worked in male prisons. I retired as a Sergeant in 2003. Before I made Sergeant I was discriminated against by the State of New York, because they gave Affirmative Action points to blacks and hispanics for that test. It was the one and only time they gave out Affirmative Action points. I had a 92, and instead of being promoted within the first year of the list coming out as I should have, I saw blacks and hispanics with lower test scores promoted to Sergeant ahead of me. It took them almost five years to finally get around to appointing the white people who had gotten the higher scores on that list. Because of having to wait to be promoted, I lost seniority in title, and salary all during that time, and I lost the opportunity to take the Lieutenant's test when it was given.

I went to college while I was working. I didn't have the benefit of being able to not work, while attending school, as I had two kids to support. I received my masters degree. I never used my degrees for my job. By the time I completed my education, I had too much seniority to leave, and take another job.

I had a friend whose grandfather was the first man to enlist in the 54th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment (Glory) in Boston, Mass., during the Civil War. He, himself was a member of the original Triple Nickel (555) Paratroop unit. When the government wouldn't let black paratroopers fight overseas, he resigned and joined a black infantry unit. He fought in Italy during WWII, and in Korea at Heartbreak Ridge. He retired from the U.S. Army as a Colonel. At time time we met, he was living in Lexington, Mass, and working for the Federal Government. He already had his degree, but was taking some courses at Harvard. When I told him I would love to go to school at Harvard, he told me that Harvard was very overrated, and that you could get as good, or an even better education at most other schools for a whole lot less.

So please tell me how hard Ron DeSantis has had it during his 44 years of life. Must have been a very tough decision for him to get married at Disney World.

39 posted on 06/12/2023 6:11:25 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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