Posted on 06/09/2023 5:00:05 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
As Russia amassed troops on the Ukrainian border, Russian President Vladimir Putin, his spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, and other Russian officials repeatedly denied that their country had plans to invade Ukraine. They blamed the U.S., Ukraine and others for the tension, insisting that Russia is a “peaceful country” and that it is “not going to attack anyone.”
That, of course, was proven false when Russia launched a full-scale invasion against Ukraine on Feb. 24 — two days after Russian tanks rolled into eastern Ukraine on a “peace-keeping” mission.
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“Ukrainians and Joe Biden are not conservatives and neither are you.”
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Look who’s talking! lol
You are the most pro Neo-soviet fanatic here on FR.
Pleas stay in Moscow where you are right now. Your Soviet propaganda won’t work here in America. We, America and allies are not a bunch of commies and/ or Neo-Soviets.
The only countries supporting Russia at any cost like you do are : North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, China.
Didn’t you know that those countries happen to be communist countries ??
You dare to call yourself a conservative? Why ? There is only Sovietism running in your veins.
Bill Clinton decided to expand NATO eastwards in 1997 and the pressure kept building.
In 2014 the coup in Ukraine orchestrated by the West during the Sochi Winter Olympics in Russia.
This forced Putin to take over Crimea and began the conflict in Donetsk and Lugansk that Ukraine escalated in February 2022 leading to the Russian attack.
Yeah this stupid hoax but still hoax. All Vagner group which was deployed in this region was less than 500 at max. Vagner fighters participated in a taking Der-el-Zor in a region where about 30 of them was wounded and about 10 killed.
American strike was against a group of Syrian and Iranian militia who tried to get control of some oil fields near Der-el-Zor. Their number was about 300. See it where this 300 came from. American bombardment was killed and injured few of them and dispersed others. That is it.
P.S. Pushing this hoax story you really go against Trump interests. Because at any time the truth of this story can be disputed and Trump will go lair.
“Why on God’s green Earth are you posting something from “factcheck?” “
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For Gods sake. Don’t you know with your own intelligence, eyes and ears that Russia indeed lied to the whole planet saying it would never attack Ukraine and that it’s a “peaceful country”? It’s all over any news media of the world, it’s everywhere ! They invaded !
Here is another example. A video for you.
Russia tells BBC “we did not invade Ukraine” and there is “no war” there - BBC News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZtV0HsYzmg
Tell me this... do you think there are no Russian troops in Ukraine??
Is there no Russian Invasion of Ukraine??
“And they had decided. They voted it to Russia in a referendum.”
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You are kidding me right?
The Russian “referendum” you are talking about was a blatant ignoble scam.
They forced Ukrainians they had just invaded to vote openly showing HOW they voted while being surrounded buy hordes of heavily armed Russian soldiers.
They voted with a gun pointed at their heads!
Would you vote with armed aggressive enemy soldiers surrounding you after having invaded America and telling you : “vote like this, or else...”
Would you vote against their will? Right in front of them, really?
“You probably believed the media when they said Russia was shelling a nuclear power plant.”
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Well well... talking about nuclear...
What I know is that about 10% of FR people here are pro-russian Clintonistas.
Many of them probably support the Clintons becasue they gave massive amounts of American Uranium to Russia. The famous Uranium ONE Russia deal.
Some FR people here are indeed most probably pro-Clinton Russian fanatics...
And they most probably want to push the big RESET button, just like Hillary did with LAVROV when they were together in Moscow... You know what.. that’s like sleeping with the enemy...
“Bill Clinton decided to expand NATO eastwards in 1997 and the pressure kept building.”
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The USA can’t decide to expand NATO. Period.
Free European nations can ask to join NATO if that is their wish. Period.
Do you have a problem with countrie’s free will?
For example Sweden and Finland were the most anti NATO countries in Europe for decades.
But after Sovieto-Putin’s blatant invasion of Ukraine and its committed war crimes there... Well Sweden and Finland became MASSIVELY pro NATO within 48 hours. They immediately demanded to join. Finland is now in, and once Turkey lifts its veto, Sweden will be in NATO as well.
Putin is the one building up NATO ! Because of his senseless neocon war!!
Only the extreme far left party in Sweden didn’t vote to join NATO.
All the other Swedish parties DID vote for NATO. The most right wing party of Sweden the Sweden Democrats (a decisively anti immigration party) was the most vocal pro-NATO party of ALL the Swedish parties.
The historical record from 1997 exists Peter Hitchens a reporter in Washington for the British media saw it happen.
George Kennan, a senior US diplomat, whose containment policy towards the Soviet Union was the standard established in the 1950’s openly opposed this new Clinton policy back in the 1990’s.
He warned it would lead to confrontation at some point well here we are.
The US is the leader of Canada and other NATO countries. The US drives the engine the rest follow.
Trump proudly gave the order to eradicate those Russian and Syrian troops.
I support his philosophy of protecting American soldiers lives you see.
Not a surprise. Russia is a gulag nation. They want to enslave their neighbors. Putin will probably be replaced by a hardliner so I doubt things will improve in the future. That's why Russia's neighbors are joining NATO. But NATO's flaw is that they depend on America. They need the Brits, the French and the Germans to take more of a leadership role within NATO.
Trump proudly gave the order to eradicate those Russian and Syrian troops.==
There wasn’t Russian or Vagner troops there. Just Syrian MILITIA and their Iranian supporters. Overall number of group of those fighters were about 300. But they were NOT all-killed but just dispersed. Few killed and more wounded but not eliminated at all. So this story is completely untrue.
If there were real TROOPS Russian or Syrian there would be anti-aircraft cover. And their troopers carry Mpads with them too. American aircraft simply can’t attack them without the risk to be shot down.
So the whole story is a hoax need to paint Trump a brave. But anyone who take time to look deeper will see a lie which may backfire to make a Trump reputation.
Not a surprise. Russia is a gulag nation. ==
Soviets’ were a Gulag nation. And the most amount of Gulag guards were recruited from Ukranian SSR. So they were Ukrainians mostly.
They want to enslave their neighbors.==
Better ask the neibors of Brits about enslavement. Say Irish or Scotts.
That’s why Russia’s neighbors are joining NATO. ==
There none neibors of Russia which didn’t attack her in a past. They were very deserved Russian actions toward them.
America also wasn’t built in the white gloves. Remember Native Americans who was eliminated so much that their numbers still lot below the numbers of their relatives in Latin America countries. Or Africans who was brought in USA as slaves.
So NOT America may lecture Russia on her neighbors.
They need the Brits, the French and the Germans to take more of a leadership role within NATO.==
More they do hostile things toward Russia more they bring a war on themselves.
We've made a lot of progress since then. But the Democrats are trying to enslave the Blacks so they can exploit them for their votes. The Republicans freed the slaves and now they are trying to bring them up to the middle class. Cubans realize that. Same thing with the Venezuelans. Hopefully Asians will be next.
We’ve made a lot of progress since then.==
Russia progressed too. To call her “gulag nation” is like to call America “slavery nation” today.
Factcheck.org is a tool of the MSM used to silence dissent.
Economically. Yes. But that's about it.
If you say Ukraine didn’t provoke the attack there’s no helping you. Substitute Mexico for Ukraine and America for Russia. Now tell me America would sit back and do nothing.
As proof we would do nothing look at the border invasion going on now. Russia had no fear of NATO other than it might curtail Russia’s criminal invasions. Remember the 24-year dictator said “Russia knows no borders.” It took a lot for the Swedes to cast off their beloved neutrality. Putin’s invasions of the Republic of Georgia and Ukraine did it.
Huge success for Ukraine they already penetrated Russian defenses by 16Km!
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