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American experts are saying 5 American submarines with Tomahawk missiles can destroy the Chinese Navy. China has no chance. How true is this?
Quora ^ | Tomaž Vargazon

Posted on 05/31/2023 10:38:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Well, four American submarines carry over 300 Tomahawk missiles between them.


Four Ohio-class SSBN were converted into SSGNs

Certainly 600 heavy duty missiles is enough to take out the bulk of the Chinese 200-ship (or so) navy. A single good hit by a Tomahawk will disable a carrier and sink a frigate, two to three hits will take out any ship out there. Certainly five American submarines carry enough payload to sink or disable the entire Chinese navy, even excluding the possibility of nuclear-tipped warheads (Tomahawk or otherwise).

The problem is the many layers of defense the subs would have to contend with to get there. You need to be within 1000 km or so of the target, know where it is and where it’s heading to have any chance of hit. China knows this and has countermeasures against submarines entering their seas. Beyond that there are countermeasures ranging from anti-missile missiles to ECM to CIWS as a last-ditch resort. Not all Tomahawks would hit, that is clear. Some would get through, but many would be shot down en route and many more would miss their marks due to electronic interference.

Tomahawks really aren’t well suited to attack ships, they’re precision guided weapons to take out critical land installations.

So the claim is technically true, but meaningless. Four American submarines have enough non-nuclear payload to sink the entire Chinese navy in one salvo, but it’s doubtful they could ever achieve anything remotely close to that, in any realistic scenario.


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Society
KEYWORDS: china; navy; submarines; tomahawk
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To: central_va

They can build ships but they don’t have a crew who knows what to do with them.


81 posted on 06/01/2023 8:01:00 AM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Mutually Assured Destruction.


82 posted on 06/01/2023 8:04:04 AM PDT by mware
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To: PIF

What I know is that their missiles used to use GPS to travel to targets, until they realized that in a conflict with the US we can just shut down their access to GPS and their missiles would all fly blind.
So they scrambled to build their own satellite positioning system which launched a couple of years ago called “Northstar”. Except everything I’ve heard is that Northstar is far inferior to GPS, for one its signal is not as reliable, it doesn’t cover the entire globe but only East Asia, its positional accuracy is far less than GPS.
They forced trucker in China to switch from GPS to Northstar and the truckers complain constantly about dropped signals etc with the system. Can you imagine relying on that kind of system to fly nuclear warheads?


83 posted on 06/01/2023 8:15:39 AM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: Truthsearcher

Crews are reusable. Crews can be trained.


84 posted on 06/01/2023 8:35:58 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

Training people takes years, and who’s training them in China?
Plus constructing battleships requires ship yards on the coast, which can easily be bombed by the US.

China has never won a naval conflict with any foreign power, they aren’t winning their first one against the US. Heck like I said, Japan would wipe the floors with the just like they did a century ago if the US allowed it.


85 posted on 06/01/2023 8:47:23 AM PDT by Truthsearcher
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