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0:00 · hi folks quick intro before I start this
0:03 · video proper sometimes when I do a lot
0:05 · of research for a video and I just chuck
0:07 · all these ideas down into a rough script
0:09 · I worry that it doesn't flow properly I
0:11 · think this video does but you're gonna
0:13 · have to pay attention because even I do
0:16 · when I watch it over again nevertheless
0:18 · this is me trying to find the lost Roman
0:21 · town of vindomi it appears on a Roman
0:23 · list a list being a journey from A to B
0:26 · in all the towns in between one of those
0:28 · towns is vindomio vindomis but nobody
0:32 · knows where it is this is my journey to
0:34 · try and find that lost Town using a lot
0:37 · of different sources a lot of different
0:38 · information so bear with it stick with
0:40 · it there's a lot going on enjoy the
0:42 · video Let's Roll the VT
0:49 · [Music]
0:54 · thank you
0:56 · on this channel we normally make videos
0:59 · about old routes whether it's an
1:02 · abandoned Canal Roman Road ancient
1:04 · trackway you name it
1:08 · [Music]
1:11 · but today we're going to do something we
1:13 · haven't done before today we're going to
1:15 · search for something static
1:17 · [Music]
1:19 · but in order to do that we need to look
1:23 · at the root because as is often the case
1:25 · the clues are in the journey
1:30 · [Music]
1:38 · welcome to the search for the Lost Roman
1:42 · town of indomie
1:48 · welcome
1:49 · [Music]
1:50 · now today's Journey Starts Here Farley
1:54 · Mount fully just to the uh West a few
1:57 · miles west of Winchester down there in
1:59 · the trees in the distance and right
2:01 · across the valley in front of us is a
2:03 · Roman Road that's route 45a and it went
2:06 · between Winchester and serum part of a
2:09 · bigger route we'll come to that shortly
2:11 · but Folly was built to commemorate a
2:14 · horse was a very curious name the horse
2:16 · was called beware chalk pit that's not a
2:20 · warning that's the name of the horse
2:23 · so 1735 and apparently the horse that
2:26 · was buried under here won a important
2:29 · race the owner a year before was riding
2:32 · the horse and it fell into a 25 foot
2:34 · deep chalk pit hence the name
2:38 · so back to Roman Rhodes
2:40 · I'll continue for your sanity and
2:42 · probably mine too to use the modern name
2:45 · for the Roman towns we're talking about
2:47 · my head just back down the hill towards
2:51 · the serum the Winchester route well our
2:55 · story actually doesn't start there for
2:57 · that we need to head all the way down to
2:59 · Exeter
3:04 · okay so I'm not actually gonna head all
3:06 · the way to Exeter instead we'll use some
3:09 · funky Graphics a bit like this this is a
3:13 · route between silchester in North West
3:15 · Hampshire all the way down to Exeter
3:18 · it has a number of important towns along
3:20 · its route we'll come to that shortly now
3:23 · Roman roads have numbers which are
3:25 · relatively new addition Ivan McGarry
3:27 · came up with a system similar to that
3:29 · used on Modern roads today but for the
3:32 · purpose of this video that doesn't
3:34 · really matter what does matter is how we
3:37 · know this route was actually a route
3:43 · foreign
3:44 · [Music]
3:48 · so the Romans used to use lists love a
3:51 · good list let's call them itineraries
3:54 · now one of these was of the Roman
3:56 · Emperor Antonius or Antonius
4:01 · I don't think it was specific to him but
4:03 · nevertheless it was a list of
4:06 · 225 Roots containing uh stopping places
4:10 · stations towns you name it now the most
4:14 · important part of that list to us here
4:16 · in the UK was the last 15 lists on the
4:20 · back end of that itinerary
4:23 · [Music]
4:24 · now whilst they aren't hugely
4:26 · comprehensive to the entire network in
4:28 · fact I think it only contained 25 of the
4:31 · known Roman roads in the UK they did
4:34 · list the mileage and the towns along
4:38 · that route
4:39 · that's where today's mystery comes into
4:42 · play the last route on that list of 15
4:46 · so list x v the road from silchester all
4:50 · the way down to Exeter
4:53 · now the fact that that route was on the
4:56 · end of the UK the British section and
4:59 · that in itself was on the end of the
5:01 · entire itinerary combined with the fact
5:04 · that it's probably been transcribed a
5:06 · few times since we're probably going to
5:08 · be looking for some mistakes and that is
5:10 · where today's mystery was born from
5:14 · so here is that itinerary transcribed
5:17 · once again this time well by me now I'm
5:21 · going to hide most of that for the
5:22 · moment so let's head to Exeter as we do
5:25 · that metaphorically of course let's have
5:27 · a look at one of the oldest maps in
5:29 · existence for yet more context this is
5:32 · the table
5:33 · puttinga a 13th century parchment copy
5:37 · of a Roman map and it's utterly
5:39 · beautiful and extremely not to scale
5:42 · just look at the scrolling I'm having to
5:44 · do to get to the far left end
5:51 · which interestingly and once again means
5:54 · the UK is not great in fact it's largely
5:57 · missing all we have left is a very
6:00 · smudged bit of Southern England so can
6:02 · this help us in any way
6:04 · [Music]
6:17 · yes it can indeed because interestingly
6:20 · it contains the last section of
6:23 · itinerary 15. the guitar sham or near
6:27 · Horizon to Exeter and lo and behold they
6:31 · both match the map itself says 15 15
6:34 · miles and the itinerary itself says 15
6:37 · miles that's brilliant so what's next
6:40 · well let's look at the whole route and
6:43 · I'll measure all of those distances
6:45 · between each town and compare them
6:48 · against the itinerary itself now bear in
6:50 · mind of course I said earlier it's
6:51 · smudged so it's going to have a few
6:53 · mistakes or at least we're expecting a
6:55 · few mistakes
6:56 · foreign
7:00 · make those calculations in the
7:02 · background just arrived at one of my
7:05 · favorite pieces of Roman Road which you
7:07 · can still see today because in the
7:08 · middle of an old Deer Park this is
7:10 · Connell nearly at the top of a chute
7:12 · Causeway where it took a deviation
7:14 · apparently and
7:16 · um yeah in this Deer Park you can still
7:18 · see the the Roman Road today probably
7:20 · sit on that camera but um I just come
7:23 · down this bank here well this is one of
7:25 · the ditches at the side of the Roman
7:27 · Road still mid-november and it's full of
7:30 · vegetation so you're not really going to
7:31 · make any of it out perhaps from the sky
7:34 · you might be able to nevertheless right
7:37 · there in front of me that
7:39 · Bank there is the Roman Road which heads
7:42 · north to cirencester south to Winchester
7:47 · [Music]
7:49 · it's mistakes Bradbury to Dorchester is
7:52 · roughly 18 to 19 miles not as stated so
7:55 · let's change that Bradbury to Serum is
7:57 · 21 not 12. Ashley to Serum is more like
8:02 · 15 not eight Winchester to Ashley is six
8:05 · not eleven
8:08 · so let's stop there because now we've
8:10 · got one last distance to measure between
8:13 · Winchester and silchester now if we draw
8:16 · a direct line between the two well
8:18 · that's 24 miles now the itinerary for
8:21 · this list states the overall route from
8:24 · silchester to Exeter was 136. so that
8:28 · fits pretty well 111 plus 24 has 135
8:33 · that's only a mile out fantastic
8:35 · so why then are we seeing two different
8:37 · measurements between silchester and
8:39 · Winchester we're seeing an XV 15 and
8:42 · we're seeing an xxi for 21 miles that's
8:45 · 36 miles in total and even if we try and
8:48 · draw lines to make those meet in
8:51 · different directions well that seems
8:53 · miles out of the actual line of the
8:55 · route itself
8:58 · [Music]
9:09 · so that's confused antiquarians and
9:12 · anyone that's really sought to try and
9:13 · find vendomus centuries now do you take
9:17 · the literal route of 15 miles and 21
9:19 · miles and therefore make a big deviation
9:22 · in the root or do you take the straight
9:24 · line between the two Winchester and
9:26 · steel tester and make it 22 24 miles
9:34 · in fact some have suggested it's here in
9:36 · Saint maryborn just to the east of
9:39 · Andover because if you take the 15 miles
9:42 · along the portway well that fits quite
9:45 · well but then the 21 Mile passes down to
9:49 · Winchester well that doesn't work and
9:51 · then there is nephem near Alton again
9:54 · the distances could almost work if you
9:56 · take 15 miles south Southeast along
9:58 · Roman Road 155 then you land here and lo
10:03 · and behold well there was a significant
10:06 · Town found here markets dwellings
10:09 · streets you name it
10:11 · the distance from here to Winchester
10:13 · however is around 20 out
10:16 · so let's get back to the mileage let's
10:18 · assume they did indeed head from
10:21 · silchester Street to Winchester let's
10:24 · change the XV to x i i in case that was
10:27 · an error and let's change the xxi to an
10:30 · x i in case that was an error so then we
10:33 · have 12 and 11 and pretty much we bridge
10:36 · that Gap and while that gives us a
10:39 · completely new insight into where we
10:42 · might find vindomis
10:47 · he near the wheat sheath pretty much
10:50 · halfway between the two
10:53 · [Music]
11:01 · now I don't want you to think this is a
11:03 · uh something I've magically come up with
11:05 · this whole theory of course the Roman
11:07 · Road research Association I've been
11:09 · mulling this over for years and as I
11:12 · mentioned antiquarians for decades and
11:15 · centuries alike but it does show you
11:17 · what there is out there still to
11:19 · discover still to discuss and still to
11:21 · almost sit from your own armchair at
11:24 · home and ponder over and of course the
11:27 · one thing that we've learned from this
11:29 · perhaps is it's not always best to start
11:32 · a route from silchester or one specific
11:35 · point maybe sometimes it's good to flip
11:37 · on its head and start the other end
11:39 · where you know something is correct and
11:42 · then work backwards it's a one lesson
11:44 · I've learned today if you've enjoyed
11:46 · this little video
11:47 · hit the like button and uh I'll be back
11:50 · this time next week
11:56 · [Music]
12:03 · [Music]

Transcript
0:00	·	hi folks quick intro before I start this
0:03	·	video proper sometimes when I do a lot
0:05	·	of research for a video and I just chuck
0:07	·	all these ideas down into a rough script
0:09	·	I worry that it doesn't flow properly I
0:11	·	think this video does but you're gonna
0:13	·	have to pay attention because even I do
0:16	·	when I watch it over again nevertheless
0:18	·	this is me trying to find the lost Roman
0:21	·	town of vindomi it appears on a Roman
0:23	·	list a list being a journey from A to B
0:26	·	in all the towns in between one of those
0:28	·	towns is vindomio vindomis but nobody
0:32	·	knows where it is this is my journey to
0:34	·	try and find that lost Town using a lot
0:37	·	of different sources a lot of different
0:38	·	information so bear with it stick with
0:40	·	it there's a lot going on enjoy the
0:42	·	video Let's Roll the VT
0:49	·	[Music]
0:54	·	thank you
0:56	·	on this channel we normally make videos
0:59	·	about old routes whether it's an
1:02	·	abandoned Canal Roman Road ancient
1:04	·	trackway you name it
1:08	·	[Music]
1:11	·	but today we're going to do something we
1:13	·	haven't done before today we're going to
1:15	·	search for something static
1:17	·	[Music]
1:19	·	but in order to do that we need to look
1:23	·	at the root because as is often the case
1:25	·	the clues are in the journey
1:30	·	[Music]
1:38	·	welcome to the search for the Lost Roman
1:42	·	town of indomie
1:48	·	welcome
1:49	·	[Music]
1:50	·	now today's Journey Starts Here Farley
1:54	·	Mount fully just to the uh West a few
1:57	·	miles west of Winchester down there in
1:59	·	the trees in the distance and right
2:01	·	across the valley in front of us is a
2:03	·	Roman Road that's route 45a and it went
2:06	·	between Winchester and serum part of a
2:09	·	bigger route we'll come to that shortly
2:11	·	but Folly was built to commemorate a
2:14	·	horse was a very curious name the horse
2:16	·	was called beware chalk pit that's not a
2:20	·	warning that's the name of the horse
2:23	·	so 1735 and apparently the horse that
2:26	·	was buried under here won a important
2:29	·	race the owner a year before was riding
2:32	·	the horse and it fell into a 25 foot
2:34	·	deep chalk pit hence the name
2:38	·	so back to Roman Rhodes
2:40	·	I'll continue for your sanity and
2:42	·	probably mine too to use the modern name
2:45	·	for the Roman towns we're talking about
2:47	·	my head just back down the hill towards
2:51	·	the serum the Winchester route well our
2:55	·	story actually doesn't start there for
2:57	·	that we need to head all the way down to
2:59	·	Exeter
3:04	·	okay so I'm not actually gonna head all
3:06	·	the way to Exeter instead we'll use some
3:09	·	funky Graphics a bit like this this is a
3:13	·	route between silchester in North West
3:15	·	Hampshire all the way down to Exeter
3:18	·	it has a number of important towns along
3:20	·	its route we'll come to that shortly now
3:23	·	Roman roads have numbers which are
3:25	·	relatively new addition Ivan McGarry
3:27	·	came up with a system similar to that
3:29	·	used on Modern roads today but for the
3:32	·	purpose of this video that doesn't
3:34	·	really matter what does matter is how we
3:37	·	know this route was actually a route
3:43	·	foreign
3:44	·	[Music]
3:48	·	so the Romans used to use lists love a
3:51	·	good list let's call them itineraries
3:54	·	now one of these was of the Roman
3:56	·	Emperor Antonius or Antonius
4:01	·	I don't think it was specific to him but
4:03	·	nevertheless it was a list of
4:06	·	225 Roots containing uh stopping places
4:10	·	stations towns you name it now the most
4:14	·	important part of that list to us here
4:16	·	in the UK was the last 15 lists on the
4:20	·	back end of that itinerary
4:23	·	[Music]
4:24	·	now whilst they aren't hugely
4:26	·	comprehensive to the entire network in
4:28	·	fact I think it only contained 25 of the
4:31	·	known Roman roads in the UK they did
4:34	·	list the mileage and the towns along
4:38	·	that route
4:39	·	that's where today's mystery comes into
4:42	·	play the last route on that list of 15
4:46	·	so list x v the road from silchester all
4:50	·	the way down to Exeter
4:53	·	now the fact that that route was on the
4:56	·	end of the UK the British section and
4:59	·	that in itself was on the end of the
5:01	·	entire itinerary combined with the fact
5:04	·	that it's probably been transcribed a
5:06	·	few times since we're probably going to
5:08	·	be looking for some mistakes and that is
5:10	·	where today's mystery was born from
5:14	·	so here is that itinerary transcribed
5:17	·	once again this time well by me now I'm
5:21	·	going to hide most of that for the
5:22	·	moment so let's head to Exeter as we do
5:25	·	that metaphorically of course let's have
5:27	·	a look at one of the oldest maps in
5:29	·	existence for yet more context this is
5:32	·	the table
5:33	·	puttinga a 13th century parchment copy
5:37	·	of a Roman map and it's utterly
5:39	·	beautiful and extremely not to scale
5:42	·	just look at the scrolling I'm having to
5:44	·	do to get to the far left end
5:51	·	which interestingly and once again means
5:54	·	the UK is not great in fact it's largely
5:57	·	missing all we have left is a very
6:00	·	smudged bit of Southern England so can
6:02	·	this help us in any way
6:04	·	[Music]
6:17	·	yes it can indeed because interestingly
6:20	·	it contains the last section of
6:23	·	itinerary 15. the guitar sham or near
6:27	·	Horizon to Exeter and lo and behold they
6:31	·	both match the map itself says 15 15
6:34	·	miles and the itinerary itself says 15
6:37	·	miles that's brilliant so what's next
6:40	·	well let's look at the whole route and
6:43	·	I'll measure all of those distances
6:45	·	between each town and compare them
6:48	·	against the itinerary itself now bear in
6:50	·	mind of course I said earlier it's
6:51	·	smudged so it's going to have a few
6:53	·	mistakes or at least we're expecting a
6:55	·	few mistakes
6:56	·	foreign
7:00	·	make those calculations in the
7:02	·	background just arrived at one of my
7:05	·	favorite pieces of Roman Road which you
7:07	·	can still see today because in the
7:08	·	middle of an old Deer Park this is
7:10	·	Connell nearly at the top of a chute
7:12	·	Causeway where it took a deviation
7:14	·	apparently and
7:16	·	um yeah in this Deer Park you can still
7:18	·	see the the Roman Road today probably
7:20	·	sit on that camera but um I just come
7:23	·	down this bank here well this is one of
7:25	·	the ditches at the side of the Roman
7:27	·	Road still mid-november and it's full of
7:30	·	vegetation so you're not really going to
7:31	·	make any of it out perhaps from the sky
7:34	·	you might be able to nevertheless right
7:37	·	there in front of me that
7:39	·	Bank there is the Roman Road which heads
7:42	·	north to cirencester south to Winchester
7:47	·	[Music]
7:49	·	it's mistakes Bradbury to Dorchester is
7:52	·	roughly 18 to 19 miles not as stated so
7:55	·	let's change that Bradbury to Serum is
7:57	·	21 not 12. Ashley to Serum is more like
8:02	·	15 not eight Winchester to Ashley is six
8:05	·	not eleven
8:08	·	so let's stop there because now we've
8:10	·	got one last distance to measure between
8:13	·	Winchester and silchester now if we draw
8:16	·	a direct line between the two well
8:18	·	that's 24 miles now the itinerary for
8:21	·	this list states the overall route from
8:24	·	silchester to Exeter was 136. so that
8:28	·	fits pretty well 111 plus 24 has 135
8:33	·	that's only a mile out fantastic
8:35	·	so why then are we seeing two different
8:37	·	measurements between silchester and
8:39	·	Winchester we're seeing an XV 15 and
8:42	·	we're seeing an xxi for 21 miles that's
8:45	·	36 miles in total and even if we try and
8:48	·	draw lines to make those meet in
8:51	·	different directions well that seems
8:53	·	miles out of the actual line of the
8:55	·	route itself
8:58	·	[Music]
9:09	·	so that's confused antiquarians and
9:12	·	anyone that's really sought to try and
9:13	·	find vendomus centuries now do you take
9:17	·	the literal route of 15 miles and 21
9:19	·	miles and therefore make a big deviation
9:22	·	in the root or do you take the straight
9:24	·	line between the two Winchester and
9:26	·	steel tester and make it 22 24 miles
9:34	·	in fact some have suggested it's here in
9:36	·	Saint maryborn just to the east of
9:39	·	Andover because if you take the 15 miles
9:42	·	along the portway well that fits quite
9:45	·	well but then the 21 Mile passes down to
9:49	·	Winchester well that doesn't work and
9:51	·	then there is nephem near Alton again
9:54	·	the distances could almost work if you
9:56	·	take 15 miles south Southeast along
9:58	·	Roman Road 155 then you land here and lo
10:03	·	and behold well there was a significant
10:06	·	Town found here markets dwellings
10:09	·	streets you name it
10:11	·	the distance from here to Winchester
10:13	·	however is around 20 out
10:16	·	so let's get back to the mileage let's
10:18	·	assume they did indeed head from
10:21	·	silchester Street to Winchester let's
10:24	·	change the XV to x i i in case that was
10:27	·	an error and let's change the xxi to an
10:30	·	x i in case that was an error so then we
10:33	·	have 12 and 11 and pretty much we bridge
10:36	·	that Gap and while that gives us a
10:39	·	completely new insight into where we
10:42	·	might find vindomis
10:47	·	he near the wheat sheath pretty much
10:50	·	halfway between the two
10:53	·	[Music]
11:01	·	now I don't want you to think this is a
11:03	·	uh something I've magically come up with
11:05	·	this whole theory of course the Roman
11:07	·	Road research Association I've been
11:09	·	mulling this over for years and as I
11:12	·	mentioned antiquarians for decades and
11:15	·	centuries alike but it does show you
11:17	·	what there is out there still to
11:19	·	discover still to discuss and still to
11:21	·	almost sit from your own armchair at
11:24	·	home and ponder over and of course the
11:27	·	one thing that we've learned from this
11:29	·	perhaps is it's not always best to start
11:32	·	a route from silchester or one specific
11:35	·	point maybe sometimes it's good to flip
11:37	·	on its head and start the other end
11:39	·	where you know something is correct and
11:42	·	then work backwards it's a one lesson
11:44	·	I've learned today if you've enjoyed
11:46	·	this little video
11:47	·	hit the like button and uh I'll be back
11:50	·	this time next week
11:56	·	[Music]
12:03	·	[Music]