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To: little jeremiah

all of this is JMO:

1. I’m also not keen to start of with a list of credentials. Propaganda technique: Appeal to Authority. (Plenty of “experts” were wrong about covid/vax.)

2. Trident University is pretty suss.

3. They spend way too much time arguing against J. Herold & D. Johnson. Propaganda technique: ad hominem attack. N

4. They misspelled Herold as “Hareld”. Significant? Or just a spelling error?

5. 17th SOG. Are the 2 authors really a part of 17th SOG? Or are they just using the logo? Genuine question. I can’t tell. They don’t cite it in their biographies, but they do cite other military experience.

I’m pretty sure the 17th would not condone an article like this - or at least not one that seems to be written by 2 random members and published unofficially.

6. On the plus side, they present some interesting information. I’m happy to listen to reasoned arguments on both sides of an issue. They make a lot of GOOD POINTS when they are not directly attacking JH theory.

7. I think they misrepresent JH’s view. As I understand it, JH’s view is NOT (necessarily) that Trump is still President, but that T turned over Presidential authority to another entity - maybe a small group of military officers?

8. People that cry “misinformation” all the time are suspect, IMO.


1. I confess that I listen to J. Herold regularly and I like much of what he has to say. (IDK who Derek Johnson is. Maybe I know him by his screen name somewhere.)

2. That doesn’t mean that I agree with everything JH says.

3. IIRC, JH presents Devolution as a possibility, lays out the evidence and the case for it, but does not claim that it is 100% fact.

4. That’s my position, too. I think it makes a lot of sense. I think it is a possibility. I think that it is one of several likely things that would logically explain what is happening around us. I also think it’s highly probable that JH has one or more details wrong. But that would not mean that the theory is completely wrong.


1,462 posted on 06/02/2023 5:26:38 PM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: generally

I appreciate your thoughts, carefully laid out and well worth reading. I’ve seen several articles by these people before and have no clue what the 17th SOG is; other than the name they call themselves. I didn’t actually see anyplace they proved Jon Herald wrong. At all. I’ve thought since they came on the scene that they smelled like envy.


1,467 posted on 06/02/2023 5:41:19 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Never worry about anything. Worry never solved any problem or moved any stone.)
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