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To: ought-six
Have you no clue whatever of the hatred Ukrainians have for Russians?

So, you are saying that this conflict is justified because of residual hatred from the idiotic and cruel policies of a Soviet despot from 1932 to 1933?

My wife and I live in the midst of one of the largest concentrations of Russians and Ukrainians in this country. We have known some for decades. And guess what? The Russians and Ukrainians who live here are good people and do not hate each other. This conflict has of obviously caused some discord, but you have got it completely wrong. Russians hate Stalin as much or more than Ukrainians and no one is blaming current generations of Russians for the maniacs that were in charge 90 years ago.

Russians and Ukrainians who live here disagree on a lot but the one thing that they do agree on is that the United States government has botched this situation completely. They believe that the United States government has caused the deaths, injuries, and misery of their countrymen to be much worse. Most pray only that the mayhem that this idiocy provoked by Neocons such as yourself will be over soon before Ukraine is completely destroyed.

All we have done is made everything much worse starting long before the “invasion” took place. We have used Ukraine as pawns in a global chess game and those involved know it and do not feel grateful for our government's involvement. Wake up!!!

65 posted on 05/22/2023 6:04:52 PM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: fireman15

“So, you are saying that this conflict is justified because of residual hatred from the idiotic and cruel policies of a Soviet despot from 1932 to 1933?”

Russia invaded Ukraine. Thus, Russia started the war, and Ukraine responded in defense of hearth and home. So, as for Ukraine, its defense is wholly justified.

“My wife and I live in the midst of one of the largest concentrations of Russians and Ukrainians in this country. We have known some for decades. And guess what? The Russians and Ukrainians who live here are good people and do not hate each other. This conflict has of obviously caused some discord, but you have got it completely wrong. Russians hate Stalin as much or more than Ukrainians and no one is blaming current generations of Russians for the maniacs that were in charge 90 years ago.”

Anecdotal. I can make the same argument. There are several Ukrainian families in my neighborhood, and they ALL hate Russians.

And you say that Russians hate Stalin? That’s interesting, because they have his statue and portrait all over the place, and they look back with fondness to his stint as the Soviet leader (even though he was an ethnic Georgian).

“Russians and Ukrainians who live here disagree on a lot but the one thing that they do agree on is that the United States government has botched this situation completely. They believe that the United States government has caused the deaths, injuries, and misery of their countrymen to be much worse.”

Bull crap. The Ukrainians I know would say you are full of shit.

“Most pray only that the mayhem that this idiocy provoked by Neocons such as yourself will be over soon before Ukraine is completely destroyed.”

Well, I’m not a neocon. Are you a neocom(munist)?

“All we have done is made everything much worse starting long before the ‘invasion’ took place.”

Why do you put the word invasion in quotes? That suggests that you don’t consider Russia’s actions against Ukraine (attacking Ukraine proper, inserting Russian troops into Ukraine, and illegally annexing part of Ukraine) to be an invasion. I think only you and the pro-Russia water carriers are probably the only people who don’t think it is an invasion.

“Wake up!!!”

Grow up!


66 posted on 05/22/2023 6:24:01 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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