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To: Kazan

Please don’t upset mom. Bakhmut has fallen and will not be returned to Ukrainian control. There has been no Ukrainian Offensive and likely never will be. Zelinsky’s thugs have just about run out of men to kidnap off the streets and from their homes to throw into the Russian meat grinder with little to no training. What a fiasco!

And yet we have mom and others trying to pretend that Zelinsky is leading his criminal regime to victory. If our puppet would have been instructed to reach a brokered deal a year ago there might have been something to save. $113 Billion taxpayer dollars later and what have we gained? Nothing. A bunch of dead Ukrainians who never wanted to get into this conflict to begin with and a country in ruin... If the goal to make the US look like complete fools then we have succeeded.


11 posted on 05/20/2023 9:49:51 PM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: fireman15

It’s believed the Ukr military commander may be seriously wounded. Doing a counteroffensive would be even harder now, as he is capable.


13 posted on 05/20/2023 9:52:57 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: fireman15

BINGO!


16 posted on 05/20/2023 10:16:05 PM PDT by dadgum (Overjoyed to be the Pariah.)
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To: fireman15
If the goal to make the US look like complete fools then we have succeeded.

They say that 'intelligence assessment' these days amounts to telling your superiors what they want to hear or otherwise you may not have a job. I notice they are sneaking in little stories now about how much the Russian military has "improved", which hides the fact that they wanted to believe fantasy to begin with. Everything they did was fantasy thinking, like the sanctions. All if it backfired.

17 posted on 05/20/2023 10:20:12 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: fireman15

yeah

remember ‘ change ‘

big hold out - Putin

that was ‘ regime ‘ change

obombo wanted


18 posted on 05/20/2023 10:23:42 PM PDT by Firehath
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To: fireman15
$113 Billion taxpayer dollars later and what have we gained?

$113 Billion is the new $85 Billion.

Each DSC outpost that falls, tops the previous. Pattern is the same.

22 posted on 05/20/2023 10:41:42 PM PDT by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: fireman15

“Bakhmut has fallen and will not be returned to Ukrainian control.”

You are not omniscient.


23 posted on 05/20/2023 10:42:06 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion )
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To: fireman15

There has been historically the use of the term Pyric Victory

From now on, a more up to date term will be Bakhmut Victory


37 posted on 05/21/2023 5:18:11 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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To: fireman15

“A bunch of dead Ukrainians who never wanted to get into this conflict to begin with...”

Uh, they were invaded. I would hazard to guess that they did not want to be invaded. But, since Russia invaded them, and brought the war to them, they fought to defend their hearth and home. Perhaps that is a mindset that is totally alien to you.


55 posted on 05/21/2023 2:14:50 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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