Yes to all that
I watch my boys work dating sites honestly and earnestly and 75/80% of the women lie and subterfuge
Even if they talk on the phone and get to know them etc
It’s just an ego game to them
The warning signs are
Won’t speak verbally
Bitch about their daddy
No real job or studies
Enhanced artwork like kitty whiskers on photo
And the big one
When it gets to talking about going out
They say well let’s plan on next week or so forth
Like 10 days out
I’m like that’s just strung along bullshit
Playing u
A woman wants to meet u or see u she’s on like in days or first weekend unless she’s outta town
I mean it’s heartbreaking as a parent
I watch them get excited
Plan what to wear
Make reservations
Do all the right stuff
Them she has an excuse last second then fades away
They don’t want relationship building
They live on social media till the wee hours talking about themselves
If they get Horny that’s never been an issue for attractive women in history to get that itch scratched in hours
It’s crazy
And you’re right church girls aren’t much different maybe a hair more chaste
I mean my oldest had one
Absolutely gorgeous like a model
All she wanted to do was get take out food and a room
And was agoraphobic and difficult
Always up to him
He threw in the towel after a few months
But she was a solid 9.5 lookswise
I wish it was like the 70s and 80s for them
It is heartbreaking to watch. He has had a couple of relationships. Not good. This second one.... well he discovered she had stopped taking her psychiatric meds. The ones she neglected to mention. No babies with tat cocktail.
I thought I was the only parent watching this cultural debacle