Posted on 05/15/2023 10:00:12 AM PDT by Kazan
The NATO and U.S.-backed war against Russia began in 2000 when Clinton courted New York’s large Ukrainian American constituency in her run for the U.S. Senate. Hillary openly recognized the Holodomor [Stalin’s plan to starve millions of anti-Russian Ukrainian peasants to death in his 1932-33 communist collective farming disaster]. As a senator, she campaigned on admitting Ukraine to the World Trade Organization (WTO) and promised to set the legislative agenda to admit Ukraine to NATO.
In 2010, Secretary of State Clinton was warmly welcomed in Kyiv by Ukraine’s pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych. During that visit, Clinton told Yanukovych that “NATO’s door remains open” despite Yanukovych’s evident retreat from pursuing NATO membership. The battlelines between Hillary and Trump trace back to 2004 when Paul Manafort agreed to become a paid advisor to Yanukovych. Manafort was a top-level Republican operative who had previously worked with Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. Yanukovych was a former governor of Donetsk, a Russian-speaking region of Ukraine close to the border with Russia.
The decisions that led Obama/Hillary/Biden to go to war against Russia in today’s proxy Ukraine-Russia war trace back to November 30, 2013, the day Yanukovych announced he was suspending preparations for signing an agreement to join NATO that had been scheduled to occur at an EU summit held that day in Vilnius, Lithuania. The State Department’s efforts to block Yanukovych from power in Ukraine began with the Soros-funded Orange Revolution in 2004. In December 2013, 300,00 Ukrainians took to the streets in the largest protests since the Orange Revolution, this time demanding Yanukovych resign. These protests developed into the State Department and Soros-funded Maidan Revolution, which ultimately led to Yanukovych fleeing to Russia in February 2014.
On September 21, 2019, investigative journalist Lee Stranahan reported in TGP that Soros funded the International Renaissance Foundation that worked closely with Hillary Clinton’s State Department in Ukraine and contributed at least $8 million to Hillary-affiliated super-PACs in her 2016 presidential campaign cycle. On March 19, 2015, the Wall Street Journalpublished a chart showing Ukrainian donors led the list of nations from which contributions by individuals of more than $50,000 went to the Clinton Foundation. According to the Wall Street Journal, Ukrainian individual donors contribute $10.0 million to the Clinton Foundation between 1999 and 2014.
In August 2016, the Associated Press (AP) broke the story that while she was secretary of state, Clinton hosted in June 2012, a private dinner for Clinton Foundation donors at her home, including Victor Pinchuk, a Ukrainian businessman whose Ukrainian-based foundation donated at least $8.6 million to the Clinton Foundation. During the period in which he attended Clinton’s private dinner, Pinchuk had retained Doug Schoen, a New York-based pollster who was a former advisor to President Bill Clinton, to set up meetings with State Department officials. On February 12, 2014, the New York Times reported that Pinchuk, whose father-in-law is Leonid Kuchma, president of Ukraine from 1994 to 2005, “led a government criticized for corruption, nepotism, and the murder of dissident journalists.” As president, Kuchma privatized a giant state steel factory and sold it to Pinchuk’s consortium for the low price of approximately $800 million. The New York Timesarticle also reported that between 2006 and 2014, Pinchuk donated roughly $13.1 million to the Clinton Foundation. Pinchuk strongly advocated Ukraine joining the EU, a cause he championed with Secretary of State Clinton.
After Hillary left the State Department in 2014, Assistant Secretary of State, Bureau of European and Eurasian Affairs, Victoria Nuland, took up the cause of getting Ukraine into NATO. On December 13, 2013, amid the Maidan Revolution, Nuland gave a speech to the U.S. Ukraine Foundation. In that speech, she said, “When Ukrainians say they are European, this is what they mean. And as one very prominent Ukrainian businessman said to me, ‘The Maidan Movement’s greatest achievement is that it has proven that the people of Ukraine will no longer support any president—this one [i.e., Yanukovych] or a future one—who does not take them to Europe.'” In February 2014, a leaked transcript of a telephone call between Nuland and Geoffrey Pyatt, then U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, Nuland said, “F… the EU!” in apparent frustration the EU was not equally as strong as the State Department in supporting the Maidan Revolution’s push to for Ukraine to join NATO.
In March 2014, following the Maidan Revolution that ousted Yanukovych, Russian troops invaded and annexed Crimea while supporting Russian-backed separatists supported Russia-aligned Donbas and Luhansk republics as independent states in battles with the Ukrainian army. On February 18, 2023, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg stepped in front of microphones for an impromptu press conference following a meeting of the NATO Defense Ministers at NATO headquarters in Brussels, Belgium. Stoltenberg openly admitted to the Western media that NATO has been at war with Russia since 2014. “Since 2014, NATO allies have provided support to Ukraine with training and equipment. Ukrainian forces were much stronger in 2022 than they were in 2014.”
Around 300,000 Ukrainian mil died so far, and ALL the professional military are dead.Your own Putin Stooge bs says that Russia is so weak they can't win against "grab men - young teenagers to grandpas - off the street, shove them into a uniform, hand them a firearm (ammo maybe...) no training"
Thanks for adding - LOL!
Almost every article I have seen, be it from the left, right, or center, comes to the following conclusion:
Are there really neo-Nazis fighting for Ukraine? Well, yes — but it’s a long story
“Ukraine’s neo-Nazi Svoboda Party and its founders, Oleh Tyahnybok and Andriy Parubiy, played leading roles in the U.S-backed coup in February 2014. Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and U.S. ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt mentioned Tyahnybok as one of the leaders they were working with in their infamous leaked phone call before the coup, even as they tried to exclude him from an official position in the post-coup government.
As formerly peaceful protests in Kyiv gave way to pitched battles with police and violent, armed marches to try to break through police barricades and reach the Parliament building, Svoboda members and the newly-formed Right Sector militia, led by Dmytro Yarosh, battled police, spearheaded marches and raided a police armory for weapons. By mid-February 2014, these men with guns were the de facto leaders of the Maidan movement.
We will never know what kind of political transition peaceful protests alone might have produced in Ukraine, or how different the new government would have been if a peaceful political process had been allowed to take its course without interference by the U.S. or violent right-wing extremists.
But it was Yarosh who took to the stage in the Maidan and rejected the Feb. 21, 2014 agreement negotiated by the French, German and Polish foreign ministers, under which President Viktor Yanukovych and opposition political leaders agreed to hold new elections later that year. Instead, Yarosh and Right Sector refused to disarm and led the climactic march on Parliament that overthrew the government.
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Perhaps there are supporters of terrorism out there who supported this when it occurred, but supporting a coup like this is supporting something illegal.
We are a representative republic and as such are not allowed to foment a coup like this or we are fake.
... which ultimately led to Yanukovych fleeing to Russia in February 2014.That says everything right there.
Btw you didn’t answer if you are an American citizen.
All Americans I know would have no problem making that clear.
Doesn’t matter, it being an Obama illegal coup, and you seem to have no problem with that says it all, traitor.
The subtle lie you proffer is their wanting self-determination makes it okay for the Obama regime to foment a coup, putting you squarely in the Obama camp, outside of being a true American, and going against the “Rules based order” we as a country say we all should go by, and your ilk are causing America lots of problems.
You have a problem with the truth. If you were honestly concerned about thew rule of law then you would be against Putin’s corrupt puppet who fled to Mother Russia and support Ukrainians asserting their right to self determination by being forced to basically excising a Second Amendment Right, Putin Stooge.
Why are you ashamed to say what country you are a citizen of?
And why would anyone listen to a Putin Stooge who is ashamed to say what country he is a citizen of?
* exercising a Second Amendment Right
“Putin’s puppet” is beyond the point as the US and other countries have them, and they’re all wromg, but you’re too obsessed with being a hypocrite and ignoring others doing it.
Stop with your Straw Man arguments and Conflating.
You are linking their right to self-determination to meaning the US has to support a coup when that is false.
If they wanted a coup they can dang well do it themselves and you keep avoiding saying the Obama Administration should have told them that and stayed out of it that but time and again you don’t and haven’t in our discussion because you are in the Obama camp.
Now, for you to not be in the Obama camp you have to say the following “I Berlin Freeper support Ukraine’s right to self-determination but I do not support the Obama regime’s involvement in fomenting a coup and believe further it was anti-American and wrong to foment a coup.”
As for the rest of your post, I think I’ve seen you play that game asking where people live so you be like Rachel Maddow and can act like they are from Russia?
I am a true American and proud of it, not an Obama bot. Bye, comrade.
Imagine how insanely ridiculous it would be if you wanted your freedom from Putin's puppet and someone posts anonymously on the internet of what Obama thinks, as if that has meaning to you. LOL!
Anyone in the world can claim to be "a true American and proud of it". But you refuse to say you are an American citizen.
I am a true American and proud of itA true American huh?...
But I guess you come from a mom and dad thst were stupid retards like yourself?
Thank you for those details
LJ — as I’ve said before, I live 50 miles from teh border and help/helped refugees from Ukraine.
Their men who were in their 40s were not called up until March - and even then not all.
And no, there is no grabbing men off the street.
That is what is seen in smaller towns in Russia - and the Russian propaganda mills are using standard Kremlin diversionary tactics by accusing the Kremlin’s enemies of exactly what the Kremlin is doing
Corsi is a moron, who can't get even basic facts right. Yanukovych wasn't going to join NATO, but a EU association agreement.
Ahasuerus
probably a transliteration of Xerxes i.e. Xšayāršā
...probably, but too damn bad they got the SorosDiktator CrookedZman instead. That will lead to the total destruction of Europe’s breadbasket and the EU will be the first to be eating bugs! All with 10% or more to the BigGuy JoePotato ... ymmv
LOL.... “putin Stooge” oooohhh the humanity! Must be your NewYork thinking coming through, but not too conservative, just a purile namecaller! Have a nice day and go back to DU you Master Debater...
Am I supposed to be impressed that you are a coward?
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