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To: Erik Latranyi
They thought oil in shale rock was “locked up” unti it wasn’t.

Never said that it couldn't be "unlocked."

(If, for example, sizable deposits of concrete were somehow discovered on the Moon's surface, Nasa scientists would be elated since it would be a - relatively - convenient source of water for future colonists. Of course, on Earth, it would be ridiculous to "mine" concrete - or some comparable natural mineral - for its water. The cost would be prohibitive by a factor of at least a thousand.)

But to say that this discovery (of a mineral in which water is "locked up" as in concrete) deep within the Earth somehow bolsters one's religious faith is rather disheartening. An almighty God would not require such a "handy" source. He could instead simply "whip it up," as needed - or "blink" it here from Alpha Centauri.

In contrast, extracting water from ringwoodite in order to inundate the Earth's surface, and then returning it, after the Flood, to deep within the Earth to be re-combined with the ringwoodite, all within a span of ca. 40 days... without totally disrupting Earth's geological strata in the process - that is all so convoluted a chain of events...

Feeling smug and self-satisfied because ringwoodite can be forced, with considerable contortions (requiring an abandonment of all principles of "economy of effort"), to explain where the water in the Biblical Story of the Flood came from... Quite unnecessary!

Regards,

41 posted on 05/08/2023 6:23:47 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

You assume facts not in evidence with some of your statements, and overlook evidence in at least one other.


56 posted on 05/08/2023 8:19:02 AM PDT by Ignatz (Winner of a prestigious 1960 Y-chromosome award!)
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To: alexander_busek
But to say that this discovery (of a mineral in which water is "locked up" as in concrete) deep within the Earth somehow bolsters one's religious faith is rather disheartening. An almighty God would not require such a "handy" source. He could instead simply "whip it up," as needed - or "blink" it here from Alpha Centauri.

So, are you claiming to speak for the Almighty then? Or are you merely attempting to dictate His methods?

59 posted on 05/08/2023 9:00:28 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: alexander_busek

An interesting observation regarding the mechenism for how to get rid of all the water that covered the earth. Although Noah was in the ark for about a year, your point stands - a lot of disruption to get rid of enough water that covered the earth to be able to get out and about in a year. Although the high peaks would have been dry.

I’m a creationist but also “believe” in science - the world is wonderfully made and in order. But, like you said, God can cause anything to happen at His will. (Cause the wind to cease, stop the sun from moving, etc.)

I got a kick out of the scientists for calling this stuff “ringwoodite” based on just a seismic velocity at 400 miles deep. But I stand corrected as I see from the below article there has been lots of research on the rock, both from volcanic activity that hints at it, meteorites that hold a clue, lab tests trying to recreate the conditions of earth at 400 miles, and the first true real example found in 2014 of ringwoodite found inside of a diamond.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/rare-diamond-confirms-that-earths-mantle-holds-an-oceans-worth-of-water/


97 posted on 05/08/2023 11:22:24 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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