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To: Kazan

Just because something is true doesn’t mean its not propaganda.


2 posted on 05/06/2023 4:09:40 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Sounds like democrat spin are you sure you’re on the right forum?


3 posted on 05/06/2023 4:12:57 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: BenLurkin

“- US political commentator Gonzalo Lira was arrested by the Ukrainian SBU”

Lira was charged under article 436-2 of Ukraine’s Criminal Code, parts 2 and 3, pertaining to wartime propaganda. There is no freedom of speech there and by opening his mouth, whether right or wrong on the information

Article 2. Grounds for criminal liability

Commission by a person of a socially dangerous act that has such elements of crime as created by this Code gives grounds
for criminal liability

Article 3. Ukranian legislation on criminal liability

The laws of Ukraine on criminal liability must be consistent with provisions of existing international treaties, consent for the binding effect of which has been granted by the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine.

There is no law or treaty on the books that citizens of the US or Russia can openly say the things he did. The last treaty, signed in 1998, was violated by Russia in 2014 and the Ukraine refused to renew it.

He is a dual citizen of the US and Chile but has been living in Kharkiv, the Ukraine.

wy69


14 posted on 05/06/2023 4:48:53 PM PDT by whitney69
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To: BenLurkin

Sure…I was trying to explain to my brother the other night that propaganda doesn’t have to be an outright lie.

Heck, advertising is propaganda. Although it actually does lie.


26 posted on 05/06/2023 5:56:10 PM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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