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1 posted on 05/03/2023 11:44:43 AM PDT by Red Badger
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Everyone knows if the battery craps out, the vehicle will be worthless, so who would buy a second-hand one?


2 posted on 05/03/2023 11:50:56 AM PDT by Boogieman
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EV’s are not going to sell even close to what was anticipated, imo.


3 posted on 05/03/2023 11:52:14 AM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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If you knew when buying a ICE used car and had to replace the engine less than a year after buying it and the new engine cost nearly as much as the used car, would you do it or would you just buy a new car every time you needed a new car, assuming you could afford it.

Think of buying a new EV and 4-5 years later a new battery was required that cost nearly as much as the original car, it’s a crazy idea considering the cost and the way technology is changing, the new batteries might be compatible with the older cars.


4 posted on 05/03/2023 11:52:51 AM PDT by srmanuel
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I have yet to see a comparison of the cost to operate an EV vs Petrol that allow for the expense of replacing batteries that have degraded over time.


5 posted on 05/03/2023 11:53:26 AM PDT by GMMC0987
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Fossil fuels more reliable than electricity.


6 posted on 05/03/2023 11:53:27 AM PDT by 353FMG (Secretly practicing my Putin swagger..)
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accelerated depreciation for EVs is simply a natural result of the battery slowly going dead over time ... once the battery is gone, so is the car ...


7 posted on 05/03/2023 11:54:35 AM PDT by catnipman (In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science: stolen elections have consequences)
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Something I heard about the other day, but haven’t listened yet .... all the talk about getting away from fossil fuels, going ‘clean’, etc .... we do not have the mineral resources to do it ....

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Read academic works by Dr. Michaux: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Simon-Michaux-2


8 posted on 05/03/2023 11:55:09 AM PDT by Qiviut (I'm not out of control, I'm just not in their control. $hot $hills: Sod Off)
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Keep in mind that this is in the UK. Lots of former EV advocates get second thoughts after seeing what cold weather does to range and charging speed. Multiply that with high density areas (EV owners living in apartments and having to use public chargers for normal commutes hate cold weather more than EV owners who charge at a home.)

My wife and I like our EV. But one important factor is that we live in Alabama.

10 posted on 05/03/2023 11:56:16 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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In addition to what’s said below, expect ANY accident which damages the battery modules to “total” the car.

https://www.makeuseof.com/how-much-cost-replace-tesla-battery/

In 2019, Elon Musk said replacing battery modules costs between $5,000 and $7,000. However, different Tesla models use a different number of modules per pack. For example, older Tesla models, like the Roadster and Model S P85, have 11 and 16 modules, respectively. While newer versions, including the Model 3 and Model S Plaid, only use four to five modules.

Considering this, expect Tesla battery replacements to start between $20,000 and $35,000. However, these prices could increase as they do not include incidental expenses (like other parts) and labor. With the most affordable Tesla coming in at $42,990 before rebates, the battery accounts for nearly half to 80% of the cost of the vehicle.

However, actual battery repair prices vary from what the CEO said.


13 posted on 05/03/2023 11:59:43 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (We live in a time where intelligent people are being silenced so stupid people won’t be offended)
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Now that’s a shock!


16 posted on 05/03/2023 12:02:13 PM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) We're all Women now.)
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Caveat emptor.


18 posted on 05/03/2023 12:15:35 PM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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G.O.O.D‼️💥


19 posted on 05/03/2023 12:16:24 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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Another measure would be how the EVs hold up mechanically.

And the fuel cost per mile compared with a comparable gas-powered vehicle.

Both of our cars are over 10 years old. I don’t care what their resale value is now. They have served us well.


20 posted on 05/03/2023 12:16:42 PM PDT by cymbeline
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Because the INTEREST a person HAS for an EV fades rather rapidly as the consumer learns of the mistake she made and it becomes a beast of burden overshadowing the fascination for the gimmick.


21 posted on 05/03/2023 12:16:56 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true . . . I have no proof, but they're true.)
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22 posted on 05/03/2023 12:18:09 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19 (Res ad Triarios venit;“We are your ghosts, in this game played by monkeys, organized by lunatics” )
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"New Study: EVs Losing Value Twice As Fast As Petrol Vehicles"

Decades ago, something I started giving serious consideration when buying a vehicle was how difficult I expected it might be to find replacement parts. That turned out to be a very wise consideration. I'm not sure I'd take a used EV even if I got it free.
23 posted on 05/03/2023 12:30:52 PM PDT by clearcarbon (Fraudulent elections have consequences.)
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Wow. Whodathunkit?


24 posted on 05/03/2023 12:33:53 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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T’was to be expected. EVs have been out for a few years and the suckers who jumped on that bandwagon early are now finding out that the Total Cost of Ownership (TCO) is substantial. Add in the cost of charging station, the increase in monthly electric bill, higher vehicle insurance and the expected value of close to zero for a well-used EV with a dead battery and the suckers will realize that they have coughed up several times the sticker price for what is now a large paper-weight. And they are now on foot ...

Just how stoopid are liberals anyway ??


26 posted on 05/03/2023 12:51:12 PM PDT by ByteMercenary (Cho Bi Dung and KamalHo are not my leaders.)
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OOO now there’s a f^cking surprise


28 posted on 05/03/2023 1:00:31 PM PDT by CaptainPhilFan ( Bring back insane asylums)
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Not anything to worry about. The Fed will just issue another bailout for those foolish enough to buy them.


30 posted on 05/03/2023 1:23:15 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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