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To: gas_dr
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled amie Foxx was hospitalized: What happened to the actor?, gas_dr wrote:

I understand them perfectly well. You don’t seem to understand the principles of scientific method and logic. AF and PAF and often asymptomatic and are remarkably common. As people are looking for it more there is s likelihood that it will be found more. The diagnoses of AF and PAF are increasing prior to COVID

I also understand the VAERS database which includes the statement — VAERS is a self reporting database and as such should not be used to make clinical conclusions or medical decisions. It seems you choose not to understand your source. I have little doubt people over reported to VAERS to advance the agenda. Real scientific literature to paraphrase one of your favorite lines understand not only the data reported, but the methodology and the source of that data.

The one who might come around someday is you… as your position is marginalized more and more daily by the vast majority of Americans and actually trained professionals.

You seem to think if you keep referring to the principles of scientific method and logic people will buy your act.

"The purpose of VAERS is to detect possible signals of adverse events (side effects) that occur after the administration of U.S. licensed or authorized vaccines. " ~FDA

https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccine-adverse-events/vaers-overview

So VAERS published reports of deaths following Covid 'vaccination' at over 1000 persons by February of 2021 which most will agree is a safety signal, given that normally vaccines were pulled off the market if 50 persons died, or far fewer than that. The CDC and FDA lied and said they were  'looking into it' but for some time now, the  safety signal is only invisible to the apologists who defend the 'vaccine'.

Notice anything?

What's additionally sad is that the  politicization of Covid is such that, while VAERS normally only receives  about 1% of the reports of actual adverse events after vaccination, Covid 'vaccines' are heavily protected so that doctors and nurses can be punished or fired just  for TRYING to report to VAERS. So the news is much worse than the chart above - notice as deaths following vaccination increase do to cardiac/stroke, VAERS data  falsely tapers off  as if the  vaccines caused less harm in 2022.

When has the government ever accepted responsibility for anything? Today's bad news is that Pfizer/CDC/FDA all pushed the vax on pregnant women knowing of terribly high rates of damage to fetal life. Oh and the 'vaccine' reportedly contains a strand of genetic material that accelerates cancer.

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THAT is what you support - the 'narrative' that we just 'trust and obey' the dictates  of pharma/CDC/FDA. There will be more devastating news as the harm caused by the Covid 'vaccine', and those who push it (you), rolls out.

48 posted on 04/30/2023 9:42:40 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote
” Anyone, including Healthcare providers, vaccine manufacturers, and the public can submit reports to the system. While very important in monitoring vaccine safety, VAERS reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness

VAERS reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable. Reports to VAERS can also be biased. As a result, there are limitations on how the data can be used scientifically. Data from VAERS reports should always be interpreted with these limitations in mind.”

The above are directly taken and in bold text on the VAERs website. I know the truth is loathsome to you but it literally tells you what VAERs is and acknowledge that the reports may be inaccurate and are unverifiable. Almost as if people with an agenda could skew this database.

People who actually know about data understand methodology and limitations are important. It is what is referred to as the scientific method. You literally cannot get past the statement from VAERs with your arguments intact inlets you are intentionally dishonest or incredibly dense. Though I will admit that in certain cases those are not mutually exclusive states. Yell and rant and rave all that want but you cannot get around the plain statement of the database upon which you base your arguments.

49 posted on 04/30/2023 10:04:07 AM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Wil)
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