Posted on 04/29/2023 7:37:49 AM PDT by Paul R.
A few related questions for our FReeper computer gurus:
Has anyone tried upgrading a fairly competent* Windows computer with an older processor from Win 10 Pro to Win 11 Pro? Are significant "tricks involved?** Then were there any subsequent problems with following updates (immediately after installation of Win 11 Pro?)
*The 1st computer in question has an i7 6600u processor, 16gb DDR4 RAM, and a 512GB NVME SSD. (Pretty quick machine.) Then my immediate family & I have a few slightly "lesser" Win 10 Pro machines (which run great, and is as my custom I'll likely keep Win 10 Pro on at least one as a "legacy" machine. (I have a good string of those - hahahaha!)
**What I've seen online is that there are some refurbs selling with 6th gen processors and Win 11Pro installed. The sellers (of course) indicate these machines work fine, but I've also seen in brief research that these OS installations require "tricking" the installation software to not look for "compatible" processors: "compatible" processors are said by Microsoft to be 8th gen I-series or equivalent, or better, from what I've read. Subsequent updates are a bit of a question too. I don't particularly want to have to do "tricks" for every update.
nevermind...
And SuperCalc!!!
Well documented, easy to understand and it works.
Thx!
So, that was an upgrade with or without using a bootable USB drive per post 19? (The former of which would mean reinstalling all app software, backing up and reloading all data (should be backed up anyway), etc.?
One of the not-so-minor pains of clean installs as upgrades is having to make sure one has saved things like spell check dictionaries, having to reset various app settings and customizations, etc. :-(
I use my 10-year-old Windows 10 laptop to surf the Internet and stream all of my TV watching. It’s just easier with my hearing to have high fidelity earbuds and watch it on the laptop. So not too concerned about security on that machine anyway.
Not that I’m surprised but I can’t say I like the notion of Microsoft telling me what I can and can’t put on my computer. Assholes
If your processor is incompatible, like mine, MicroSloth will erase your entire disk drive to remove it for you, so you won't be tempted to use your 'obsolete' processor. Without warning.
Well, heck, when I was in college, PL1 was the rage...
Definitely a different UI, major pieces of the security architecture in the kernel have been refactored/re-engineered due to the massive shift in remote computing/work from home, and some new capabilities that enable O365, MS Teams, Remote Desktop, VPN and some more have been added as well.
Note, I am *NOT* a Windows fan at all. I'm a Linux user. Just stating the facts as I know them to be after having performed a Windows 11 evaluation for the large bank I work for, and after having had a briefing from Microsoft on how Windows 11, InTune and other security oriented tools that Microsoft has been developing along with their Azure platform and remote computing have been designed "together" for security.
I know, I know: I laugh at "Windows" and "security" being in the same sentence too.
Hmmm. Sounds like same time period.
PL/1, Cobol, RPG, RPG2, JCL, Pascal, IBM Assembler w/Assist, Basic (Mainframe) and more I've forgotten about.
Given I work for a very large global bank and we have a TON of PL/1 and Cobol still running the bank (and has for 40-50 years..) I absolutely DO NOT say I learned any of the above. They'll stick me on some Cobol or PL/1 conversion project and that's career DEATH.
Well, I'm north of 60 so I don't have much career left anyway, LOL!
Win11 sucks. I rolled back to Win 10.
VPN’s can be a headache at times.
I am finding that some web pages flag the VPN assigned IP address.
Finding that google results are in another language
Many websites will block international access if outfit is domestic product only.
Microsoft has been heavy-handed about that since Windows became widespread in the mi-90's with Win95.
If it has Windows on it, it's not "your computer" (other than the hardware). That was made clear when Windows stopped labeling the desktop icon "My Computer" and changed it to "This PC".
You don't "buy" a copy of Windows, you purchase a "license to run" Windows, in which absolutely no guarantees are made about what it is or what it can do. That license expires roughly 10 years after Microsoft first offered it -- not when you bought it, so it's entirely possible to purchase a license for Windows that expires in a year or less.
Note: "expires" in this context means "End-of-Life (EOL)", that is, "becomes unsupported". It will keep running after EOL but rapidly becomes a security liability and its functionality decreases as application software vendors stop supporting it.
Bill Gates has always been an asshole, since 1975. His company still reflects his personal style.
Download the windows 11 version ISO you want and burn it with Rufus there’s a drop down in Rufus that lets you remove all requirement crap in windows 11 but you have to do a clean install for it to work no upgrade
Now I've heard some say that has changed and now you have to download an image for Microsoft and boot from that. You should consult some Windows nerds in one of the online forums. (i.e. reddit, stackexchange, etc.). I'm not an expert and can only report what worked for me.
By the way, your processors are plenty powerful enough to run Windows 11.
“Why don’t folks just do linux?”
Because the 50,000 of engineering and CAM software I have licensed only runs on windows. When my software budget is 10k per year the computer and OS is not an issue.
I recently discovered that the high-end CPU (i7-3820) that I installed Windows 7 Pro on years ago was not qualified for running Windows 7. It never caused problems that I could detect, and would run nicely without crashing until one of the monthly Windows Updates became necessary.
The “Trusted Platform Module” is a device with hardware encryption that prevents “unauthorized” access. Unfortunately, *you* are not necessarily authorized to access some of the data stored there, only Microsoft is. In other words it is a potential means for spying and control contrary to your interest.
(Also, some have speculated that this may have anti-trust implications in requiring you buy a whole new computer.)
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