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Watch how SpaceX launched Starship, the tallest and most powerful rocket ever built, exploded on its first orbital flight
MSN ^ | April 20, 2023 | Staff

Posted on 04/20/2023 8:12:51 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: dynoman

Sure, we all remember that. Not an engine thrust failure, per se, but the cold, shrunken o-ring allowing for the hot gasses to burn thru the external fuel tank.


61 posted on 04/20/2023 9:19:18 AM PDT by citizen (Put all LBQTwhatever programming on a new subscription service: PERV-TV)
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To: Lazamataz

Rob said NASASpaceflight NSF said it in post 35, they are not NASA as in US government NASA. NSF are fans that track spaceflights. They talk a lot and were probably guessing about what happened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uouujjgkR3A


62 posted on 04/20/2023 9:20:28 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: beef

I’m going to try and store that term for later use.


63 posted on 04/20/2023 9:20:55 AM PDT by BigFreakinToad ("Don't Jump")
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To: dynoman

Thanks for the clarification!


64 posted on 04/20/2023 9:21:30 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: isthisnickcool

As Edison once said, “We have discovered a thousand ways to not make a light bulb.”..................


65 posted on 04/20/2023 9:21:31 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: JoSixChip

Jo...and others. A single engine system is mathematically less prone to a failure incident than is an airplane with 3 engines. 3 engines = 3 opportunities for a failure incident.

Obviously, if the single engine fails, I am hosed. 2 or 3 engines allow for continued flight, assuming airworthiness can be maintained.


66 posted on 04/20/2023 9:24:26 AM PDT by citizen (Put all LBQTwhatever programming on a new subscription service: PERV-TV)
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To: isthisnickcool

Musk, a national treasure. Yes


67 posted on 04/20/2023 9:26:50 AM PDT by citizen (Put all LBQTwhatever programming on a new subscription service: PERV-TV)
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To: citizen
A single engine system is mathematically less prone to a failure

The thing you are missing is that all engines can fail, but two engines failing at the same time is exponentially less likely then one. You can still fly with only one engine. It's called redundancy and it is the main reason they developed multiple engine planes in the first place.
68 posted on 04/20/2023 9:30:12 AM PDT by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths; 2021: My main take away from this year? Trust no one.)
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To: silent majority rising
They blew it up when the boosters failed to separate at about 10 miles.

The on-screen altitude ticker said they were at 34 Kilometers. That's 21 miles high.

69 posted on 04/20/2023 9:30:54 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Gov't declaring misinformation is tyranny: “Who determines what false information is?” )
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To: BigFreakinToad

I wouldn’t call the failures it took to reach the market capitalization of space X burning money

It’s the path to succes unless he fails

I think the first rockets failed first three times

Now he’s planets largest payload provider to orbit

Around 140 billion in outstanding shares valuation

1200 per pound per payload or around 62 million per launch so they claim


70 posted on 04/20/2023 9:35:57 AM PDT by wardaddy (Truth is treason in the Empire of lies)
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To: JoSixChip

Post #66 is quite clear as to my mahtematical point. Read it again.

Nothing is said there about 2 or 3 plane motors failing at once, only that there’s more liklihood for a mechanical incident to occur on a plane with multiple motors.

That is so obvoius I can’t believe I have to go through it again.


71 posted on 04/20/2023 9:40:15 AM PDT by citizen (Put all LBQTwhatever programming on a new subscription service: PERV-TV)
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To: Empireoftheatom48

I agree. Compare this to the recent Artemis flight. Sure, it was pretty much successful, but not until they had rolled it out and back so many times they were afraid they would wear it out doing that. Not to mention being over budget and behind schedule.


72 posted on 04/20/2023 9:40:57 AM PDT by beef (Say NO to the WOE (War On Energy))
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To: Lazamataz; Robe

I found where NSF guys are talking about losing an HPU, one said “maybe the HPU exploded at 30 seconds”. The problem with that guess is that SpaceX seemed to have decent control of the rocket all the way up to about 2:10 into the flight.


73 posted on 04/20/2023 9:41:42 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: BigFreakinToad; Pelham

I think musk average smaller rocket like now carries 25 ton payload

Or around 65 million per launch revenue

I think he’s launched over 220 revenue generating payloads so far

Around 14 billion revenue

And he did it burning money at first

A big chunk of his personal worth

If he believes in it he’s all in


74 posted on 04/20/2023 9:42:18 AM PDT by wardaddy (Truth is treason in the Empire of lies)
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To: citizen

It was old hardware; newer stuff at site but not yet mounted. The program is TEST TO FAILURE - it is the same way Falcon was done. Failures are expected - its how everyone learns.

Musk raises or uses his own funds, plus SpaceX is likely profitable from all the government and private contracts.

Taxpayers foot the bill for all the entire Federal budget. Since NASA is part of the Government, it pays for NASA launches. So you could say that the NASA budget pays for Falcon launches. Which money recycles through to jobs, hardware purchases, outsourced contracts, and so on at SpaceX.


75 posted on 04/20/2023 9:43:23 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: beef; Red Badger; Liz; Lazamataz; SunkenCiv; BenLurkin; Kaslin; MHGinTN

RUDE. Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly Experiment


76 posted on 04/20/2023 9:46:49 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (Method, motive, and opportunity: No morals, shear madness and hatred by those who cheat.)
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To: Red Badger

It’s funny…throughout the entire process they were playing down expectations. It’s kind of funny when they are just about saying, “This could blow up good.”


77 posted on 04/20/2023 9:55:16 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: wardamneagle

How are they supposed to test the largest rocket ever made? You can’t hide it. So, have a parade and what it blow up.


78 posted on 04/20/2023 9:56:17 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: PIF

That is interesting about the used hardware. Can you elaborate? I suppose it performed well enough to gather enough system performance data. Three or so minutes is quite a long period during a rocket launch.


79 posted on 04/20/2023 10:07:35 AM PDT by citizen (Put all LBQTwhatever programming on a new subscription service: PERV-TV)
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To: dynoman

The more I think about it, this thing reminds me way too much of the Is Soviet N’1 rocket.
If you look at the back end of the N1, and look at the back end of the Super Heavy, they look about the same. N-1 had 30 engines. SH has 33.
The biggest Problem they had was that the Soviets could not come up with a working way to control all of the rockets. They did the best with the equipment they could. Now, I know that was some 55 years ago, but I don’t know how much better control they’d have. Yes, they have better computers with more computing power...but it’s just too damned many engines to control.

What they needed to develop was a BIGGER engine like the good ol’ F-1 from the Saturn V. Six or eight of these would be much better. IMO.


80 posted on 04/20/2023 10:17:19 AM PDT by hoagy62 (Evil won...again.)
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