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Air France and Airbus cleared over fatal 2009 Rio-Paris crash
BBC ^ | Vanessa Buschschlüter

Posted on 04/17/2023 8:03:16 AM PDT by BenLurkin

A French court has cleared Air France and Airbus of charges of involuntary manslaughter over a deadly crash in June 2009 which killed all 228 people on board.

The Airbus A330 operated by Air France stalled during a storm and plunged into the Atlantic Ocean.

The court said even if errors had been committed, a causal link between them and the crash could not be proved.

Families of the victims reacted angrily to the acquittal.

They appeared stunned when the verdict was read out at the end of the lengthy public trial.

Danièle Lamy, the president of the association which represents the victims, said the families were "disgusted" that their long fight for justice had come to nothing.

It was the first trial for corporate involuntary manslaughter to be held in France.

Air France and Airbus had always denied the charges, for which they were facing a maximum fine of €225,000 (£200,000; $247,000).

The companies said pilot error was to blame for the crash.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Travel
KEYWORDS: airbus; airfrance
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To: BenLurkin; z3n

Air Asia 8501


21 posted on 04/17/2023 9:10:59 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: crusty old prospector

If I were a pilot, I would like to have an opportunity to have a ladder to inspect my “pilot tubes”, preflight. And maybe a piece of wire to jam in there. Yet, this seems pretty impractical.


22 posted on 04/17/2023 9:22:06 AM PDT by jroehl (And how we burned in the camps later - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - The Gulag Archipelago)
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To: crusty old prospector

From CHATgpt:

Pilot tubes are devices used in aircraft to measure the dynamic pressure of the surrounding air. Air speed is determined by measuring the difference between the total pressure and the static pressure of the air, both of which are measured using the pilot tube.

The pilot tube is a small tube that is mounted on the aircraft’s surface, typically on the leading edge of the wing or the fuselage. It has a small opening on the front end that is exposed to the oncoming airflow, and a series of pressure ports on the sides that are connected to a pressure-sensing device inside the cockpit.

As the aircraft moves through the air, the oncoming airflow enters the pilot tube and creates a dynamic pressure inside it. This pressure is higher than the static pressure of the surrounding air, which is why the side ports of the tube measure a difference in pressure. By subtracting the static pressure from the total pressure, the airspeed of the aircraft can be calculated.

The resulting measurement is usually displayed on a gauge or instrument panel in the cockpit, which shows the pilot the current airspeed of the aircraft. The accuracy of the measurement depends on the design and calibration of the pilot tube and the associated instrumentation.


23 posted on 04/17/2023 9:27:00 AM PDT by jroehl (And how we burned in the camps later - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - The Gulag Archipelago)
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To: crusty old prospector

How did pilots fly before they had technology?

They are training pilots to fly with technology... Then they rely on that tech and if it doesn’t work in an emergency situation, they fail. They should train pilots to fly without tech, then introduce the tech. Pilot error is the cause of most accidents so training them better is obviously the answer to avoiding most accidents.


24 posted on 04/17/2023 9:34:52 AM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: Red Badger; crusty old prospector; dfwgator; All

This is kind of funny, but it’s also kind of scary...

Pilot Air Traffic Control Conversations ATC Pilot’s Discord

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtX_cvmwZ6o


25 posted on 04/17/2023 9:53:32 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: Tom Tetroxide

Well tell my IP that. Of course pitch controls airspeed. But IP says full throttle on stall ( unelss it is a full power-on stall ).


26 posted on 04/17/2023 9:57:05 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: jroehl

pitot tubes (note the spelling)


27 posted on 04/17/2023 11:22:56 AM PDT by Mr Information
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To: Mr Information

I am confused as usual!


28 posted on 04/17/2023 11:27:10 AM PDT by jroehl (And how we burned in the camps later - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - The Gulag Archipelago)
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