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To: nickfrost1

“In 1938 they were allies.”

You’re a liar, Ivan; which is par for the course for you folks.

What pact or agreement did France or Britain sign with Nazi Germany establishing an alliance? The 1938 Munich Agreement was not an alliance.

“DO you notice? Actually it is same truth again. Germany was being winning till Russia was on her side. And Germany lost when she pushed Russia on a side on her enemy(US/UK coalition). Similar thing happened in 19 century and in 18 century if you examine history closely. So the side which Russia(USSR) on, always wins.”

My God, don’t they teach you history in Russia? You just said, above, that Germany “...was being winning” — and I understand English is not your language, so I won’t criticize the atrocious grammar — “till Russia was on her side.” From that gibberish I can only assume you are saying that Germany was winning until Russia was on Germany’s side. WWII began on September 1, 1939, when Germany and Russia (USSR) were allies against Poland. The Russians (USSR) not only invaded Poland from the east, it also invaded Finland
— with whom Russia had a non-aggression pact — a couple months later. Russia’s excuse? The same excuse it ALWAYS trots out: To liberate ethnic Russians (the “Red Finns”), and, of course, to annex territory.

Russia (USSR) was making a claim for certain islands and territories that were Finnish — sound familiar, Ivan? — and on November 26, 1939 Russia (USSR) accused the Finns of shelling the village of Mainila. In fact, the Russians had shelled it in order to create a pretext for withdrawal from their non-aggression pact with Finland. Then, at the end of November, 1939 Russia (USSR) invaded Finland. The invasion was condemned internationally and Russia (USSR) was expelled from the League of Nations.

And you have the gall to go on and assert that since the 18th century whichever side Russia was on, won? How did that work out for you guys in 1905 against Japan, Ivan? Or in the Crimean War of 1853-1856, when Russia lost and had to give up the Danube Delta and Southern Bessarabia?

Give it up, Ivan; you are out of your league. You are a shameless propagandist; and, as is common with propagandists, you eventually sink yourselves. Which you have done.


139 posted on 04/16/2023 12:33:20 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

You’re a liar, Ivan; which is par for the course for you folks.==

Look like you have lost argument so you turned to a personal attacks. SO cheap move.

and I understand English is not your language,==

Yeah maybe but my English is better than your Russian. So I have a ability to read much more sources than you. SO I know better our history.

The 1938 Munich Agreement was not an alliance.==

I guess historical actions contradict this because it allowed Germany to partition Czechoslovakia. What else truly allies can do to each other?

Germany and Russia (USSR) were allies against Poland.==

They just partitioned Poland in 1939. Similar act like with Czechoslovakia year ago. But you call Germany-USSR allies but not Germany-France/UK. It is confusing.

Russia (USSR) was making a claim for certain islands and territories that were Finnish — sound familiar, Ivan?==

Finns occupied them in 1918 when there was a civil war in Russia so Russia never agreed with that. So Soviet Union returned them back.

And you have the gall to go on and assert that since the 18th century whichever side Russia was on, won?==

Even from 17 century it was. And I talked about a coalitions in Europe or world. If Russia gets on one side than this side wins. It is a fact.

How did that work out for you guys in 1905 against Japan, Ivan? Or in the Crimean War of 1853-1856, when Russia lost and had to give up the Danube Delta and Southern Bessarabia?==

Yeah I admitted that Russia may lose some battles but she ALWAYS come back and again and again until she wins.

SO Crimean war wasn’t any benefits for France/UK coalition. But the consequences was that Russia began to help Prussia to unite Germany and helped new Germany to get strength and to win 1870 war against France. Germany won in 1870. And France lost Elzas and Lotharingia 2 provinces to Germans. It was Russia revenge for Crimean war.

So after losing 1870 war France did EVRYTHING to bring Russia on France/UK side so in WW1 Russia was NOT on a side of Germany. And Germany lost.

As I said the coalition which has Russia on her side always wins. Proved historical fact.

How did that work out for you guys in 1905 against Japan, Ivan?==

Soviet Union repaid Japan in 1945 to defeat her and took few mlns of Japan POWs and also all territorial loses of 1905 and some more. SO now Russia is satisfied with Japan.


142 posted on 04/16/2023 1:38:39 PM PDT by nickfrost1
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