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This is the beginning of the end of Putin in Ukraine
Fox News ^ | 4/14/2023 | Jon Sweet

Posted on 04/14/2023 11:56:19 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

As the Ukrainian spring bloodily transitions into summer, Russian President Vladimir Putin and his Generals are trying to manage a stalled, if not, failed winter offensive in the Donbas that has left as many as 75,000 Russian soldiers and Wagner Group mercenaries dead. As the Kremlin’s overall casualties continue to mount, upwards of 200,000 according to the United Kingdom’s Ministry of Defense, it is becoming increasingly clear we are likely seeing the beginning of the end of Putin in Ukraine – especially as Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and his Generals draw nearer Kyiv’s much-anticipated counteroffensive.

Ukraine is a vast Texas-size country. Kyiv’s counteroffensive could come from anywhere and everywhere. Given the vast expanse of land, Russian General Valery Vasilyevich Gerasimov is facing a similar pivotal task to that of German Field Marshal Erwin Rommel in World War II in defending Nazi-held France and Norway against an allied invasion of Europe. The ultimate outcome, like that of Normandy and Operation Overlord during the summer months of 1944 into fall, will likely dictate the outcome of Putin’s ‘special military operation.’

The question then becomes one of where, and how does Gerasimov set his defense: Donbas, Crimea, or elsewhere? Part and parcel to that question is also one of will Russian forces put up a fight, surrender, or simply lay down their arms and return to Russia? Thus far, the Russian military has not demonstrated a propensity to defend well. The nature of the battles waged in the Kherson Oblast in the fall last year may be a good indicator of future Russian battlefield performance in the defense – and influence when and where the point of Ukrainian attack.

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To: CFW
Forte10 over Romania collecting SIGINT from Southern Kherson and Northern Crimea border area for almost 24 hours. And I'm betting satellites are watching Zaporizhzhia given the Ukrainian troop advances over the past few days.


101 posted on 04/14/2023 7:00:37 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Kazan

Prigo also talking “revolution” today in his press release. He really wants St Petersburg, doesn’t he?


102 posted on 04/14/2023 7:14:53 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Kazan

Russia started the war and if you think Russia is advancing the interests of the NWO with this war then why do you support Russia?


103 posted on 04/14/2023 7:47:17 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: nickfrost1

“Russia helped ethnic Russian minority. How you may think that Russia wouldn’t help her people?”

If they’re Russia’s people then let them go back to Russia.

As for any other country with a Russian population idiots like you have given them good cause to round up those Russians and send them back to Russia. Lithuania would be wise to deport their Russian colonist population right away!


104 posted on 04/14/2023 7:50:00 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: marcusmaximus

Which reinforces the poster’s point: Putin will be replaced by someone infinitely more hawkish.


105 posted on 04/14/2023 8:01:02 PM PDT by hcmama
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To: chuckb87

When Putin goes, one way or the other, the fellow following will be much worse—See how well a Stalin like leader will treat Ukraine? A few bombs on Chernoble to blow off the cement cap on the reactor and Kiev could be made uninhabitable. turn Ukraine into a waste land by blowing up all nuke plants—then withdraw and let zelensky glow and NATO slip into a radioactive winter. Be careful what you wish for.


106 posted on 04/14/2023 8:15:40 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: MeganC

Lithuania would be wise to deport their Russian colonist population right away!==

But how do you think those Russians had GOT to the today Lithvinia? They just lived there at territories for CENTURIES which Soviet commies had MADE Lithvinia LATER. Or Ukraine or Kazakhstan and so on and so on for same matter.

And same time a lot of lithvinians live in today Russia? And all other ethnicities like Baltics, Ukies, Kazakhs and middle Asians?

How so they all live in Russia? About 200 different ethnicities and having NO problems for them.

WHY then everybody lives in Russia without a problems but Russians can NOT live in other former republics with not having problems?

Because Russia is NOT Nazi and NOT for just one ethnicity but those Ukraine or Lithvinia or Kazakhstan ARE. That is a difference.

SO maybe it is better just stop their nazi policies toward Russians in their countries and there will NOT be any cause for Russia to interrupt.


107 posted on 04/14/2023 9:30:22 PM PDT by nickfrost1
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To: ought-six

Donbas was and still is part of Ukraine, as was and still is “Novorossiya,” which is just eastern Ukraine. No one recognizes Russia’s illegal and undefined annexations of Crimea and eastern Ukraine, except for a handful of diehard communist “states” (and yet, the biggest communist state of all — China — does not recognize the annexations).==

C’mon man. You sound like Russia seek anybody recognition. For her it is enough if her people recognize it.


108 posted on 04/14/2023 9:58:12 PM PDT by nickfrost1
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To: nickfrost1

Well, you’re just making me want to see Russia defeated. The world is safer when we keep you maniacs locked up in Russia.


109 posted on 04/15/2023 8:07:52 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: All

The phrasing is usually poor.

“Putin’s replacement will be much worse.” “When Putin goes, the next guy will be worse.”

Worse for whom? Why is the worse / better choice of words defined by American preference? Why isn’t it defined as Russian preference?

Look. In the final analysis all of this is decided by oil. Everything else is imaginary. Russia’s surface area guarantees they run out last. That’s not a good enemy to have when you have to move food from point A to point B.


110 posted on 04/15/2023 8:17:48 AM PDT by Owen
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To: MeganC

Well, you’re just making me want to see Russia defeated. The world is safer when we keep you maniacs locked up in Russia.==

It means that you are a supporter of Nazis because Russians fight against them.


111 posted on 04/15/2023 9:42:15 AM PDT by nickfrost1
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To: nickfrost1

Comrade, are you going to report for conscription and service in Ukraine? Go kill those Nazis! Go on, hurry now before the war is over and you miss your chance to die for Putin!


112 posted on 04/15/2023 5:37:27 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: nickfrost1

“C’mon man. You sound like Russia seek anybody recognition. For her it is enough if her people recognize it.”

Try that in a court of law, Ivan. Oh, wait: You don’t believe in the rule of law; you believe in naked aggression against smaller and weaker neighbors, which is a typical Russian trait: Being bullies. You haven’t progressed beyond your Mongol betters who kicked your sorry asses hundreds of years ago.


113 posted on 04/15/2023 6:19:28 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: nickfrost1

“Because Russia is NOT Nazi...”

And yet Russia (the USSR) was an ally of Nazi Germany from 1939 to 1941, and even joined Nazi Germany in the September 1, 1939 invasion of Poland.

You guys crack me up.


114 posted on 04/15/2023 6:24:53 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

[Your source is a “top Russian military commander.” You crack me up. Did you ever hear of the cosmonaut Vladimir Komarov and later the Soyuz 11 crew? We listened to their comms as they were crashing to their deaths, and then we read the lying tripe that the Russian authorities trotted out as the “official” reports of the mishaps, and they were nothing like what we heard direct from the sources themselves. We listened to all your stuff, Ivan.]


So they transmitted in the clear? I thought the Russian space program was integrally linked to its military, so encryption would be SOP. Does NASA transmit in the clear?


115 posted on 04/15/2023 8:26:55 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Zhang Fei

“So they transmitted in the clear? I thought the Russian space program was integrally linked to its military, so encryption would be SOP.”

Telemetry and Sigint were generally encrypted; but voice was just scrambled, if it wasn’t in the clear. And I’m talking about more than fifty years ago. We knew what they were saying and transmitting. I have no idea what they have now, but whatever it is I’m sure it would likely make what they used back then seem primitive by comparison.


116 posted on 04/16/2023 9:38:53 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six
And yet Russia (the USSR) was an ally of Nazi Germany from 1939 to 1941, ==

You will be surprised how many European countries were allies of Nazi Germany.

First off. Poland. She together with Germany partitioned Czechoslovakia in 1938. See Hitler and Joseph Beck Poland ambassador at meeting on January 6, 1939.

SO I think it was a God justice then some others partitioned Poland in 1939 just next year.

Also France, UK in Munich 1938 signed same treaty with same Hitler. SO why Stalin should not do it in 1939 just next year? He had good examples of politics from "democratic" countries

117 posted on 04/16/2023 11:13:18 AM PDT by nickfrost1
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To: ought-six

You don’t believe in the rule of law; ==

No I believe in a court of law. Russia has them a lot. Even Putin the president is a lawyer by his main education.

BUT we believe that judges must be EXEMPLARY. And also the law must be agreed upon not just a whim somebody we even don’t recognize. Because in this case it is kangaroo court and law.

Western powers are short on this matters. Remember Iraq. What about the rule of law then? You are quite hypocritical here. Notice “the log in YOUR eye” first.


118 posted on 04/16/2023 11:20:09 AM PDT by nickfrost1
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To: nickfrost1

A strange “ally”.

Beck played a decisive role in early 1939 by staunchly refusing Hitler’s demands to subordinate Poland and to turn it into a German puppet state. Hitler demanded for Poland to give away strategic territories to Germany and to join the Anti-Comintern Pact, which was directed against the Soviet Union.

It’s true that at one point Hitler, who was an admirer of Marshall Piłsudski, envisioned Poland as a partner when they inevitably attacked the Soviet Union.


119 posted on 04/16/2023 11:21:18 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: nickfrost1

France and Britain were NOT allies of Nazi Germany; they were foes, who thought they could staunch the Nazi ambitions by appeasement, and thus gain time. Your beloved Russia, on the other hand, actually signed an agreement to JOIN Nazi Germany in its ambitions for conquest.


120 posted on 04/16/2023 11:22:00 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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