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To: usconservative

I wish I could understand why our Lord and savior had to be abused so and suffer so greatly in order to save the world. I don’t truly understand why the Creator’s Son had to become part man then suffer and die to somehow pay for the sins of humanity. At one point I read something and thought I grasped it but it faded away. I wish I could “get it.”

I am saved. Not looking to be evangelized, just saying, thanks.


34 posted on 04/08/2023 9:14:28 AM PDT by kelly4c
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To: kelly4c

God’s penalty for sin is death. Either you die or He dies. Choose.


37 posted on 04/08/2023 9:21:24 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (“And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved.” Acts 2:47 -- It's still true!)
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To: kelly4c; Hebrews 11:6
I'm not a theologian, nor do I play one on TV or on FR. I'm also Catholic but I'm not looking to convert anyone. What follows is one sinner's understanding of "why?" A small exposure to accountancy may help.

God maintains a ledger, debits and credits. On the left side (debits) is Goodness, essentially an aggregate listing of all positive things people have done, including sacrifice and fasting etc. On the right side (credits) is Badness, the opposite of Goodness across all people.

With Original Sin, a massive credit entry on the Badness side was posted. This not only shut down Eden, and made man mortal, but it closed the gates of Heaven to mankind.

Over the ensuing centuries, small debits were made to increase the Goodness balance and, to be sure, offsetting Badness entries were made. But that Original Sin credit remained massive, and none of the Goodness debit entries across the centuries came close to offsetting the massive credit. Mankind remained in a massive hole.

Along comes Jesus, living a sinless life as a man on Earth. The Goodness debits grow, and finally mankind via Jesus is making some headway in offsetting that credit/debt of Original Sin.

However, even after 33 years of perfection, mankind remains in the hole. Further, while Jesus is here, the Badness credits keep growing, and they'll KEEP growing when He is gone.

Only ONE act of love - a voluntary sacrifice from a Perfect Man - can not just more than offset the Orginal Sin Badness credit but ALSO raise the Goodness debit balance to KEEP the Gates of Heaven open for all who follow Him, forever.

His Passion and Death caused the largest Goodness debit entry EVER. The Gates of Heaven were opened. And despite continued Badness, that bigly Passion debit keeps the net balance in favor of Goodness.

I hope that helps. Peace be with you - He is RISEN!

50 posted on 04/08/2023 11:26:59 AM PDT by DoodleBob ( Gravity’s waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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