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Is WWIII about to begin in Poland, not in Ukraine?
Vanity | 4/3/23 | Vanity

Posted on 04/03/2023 6:43:43 AM PDT by hardspunned

MOSCOW, April 3. /TASS/. Aggressive developments around Russia make it necessary for Moscow to use the armed forces in a preventive manner, Russian Presidential Spokesman Dmitry Peskov told media on Monday, while commenting on the adoption of the updated Foreign Policy Concept.

"Many countries, in the first place, the countries of the collective West, have widely resorted to the preventive use of their armed forces," Peskov stated. "The current developments, aggressive developments around us just make it necessary to reserve such a right as well."

He stressed that "the concept itself has been updated in the light of the new realities."

On Friday, Russian President Vladimir Putin approved an updated and revised concept of the country's foreign policy. The concept states that Russia can use its armed forces for self-defense or for preventing attack against itself or its allies.


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To: pierrem15

Ukraine is simply not big enough and does not have sufficient weaponry to attack Russia. ==

But STILL it is a threat on a Russia doorstep. I ask you consider similar threat on US doorstep and what will US do?


101 posted on 04/03/2023 1:24:21 PM PDT by nickfrost1
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To: nickfrost1

These nations have a tremendous incentive to destroy the US economy. And they have the means.

They will form an alliance.


102 posted on 04/03/2023 1:26:40 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Cronos

They have their own demographic problems. China in ten years is going to be a bad place to be. They have an aging and sick population supported by millions of middle aged men who will never have families.

Have you seen images of kids in China? If you think American kids are obese, take a look at China. The kids there are so special now they are being spoiled like no other generation of Chinese babies.

There is a lot of saber-rattling about Taiwan. In not so many years, China wouldn’t be able to walk up the steps of the Great Wall, let alone pull off an amphibious invasion of a western supported island a hundred miles away.


103 posted on 04/03/2023 1:31:09 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Trinity5
Please explain what Poland did to instigate the German and Russian invasions at the beginning of WWII?

1938...


104 posted on 04/03/2023 1:33:54 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Pete Dovgan

Reminds me of Poland attacking Germany before WW II. Ukraine launches attack on Poland to start WW III. Its a trail balloon for the Needed “Tolkin Gulf” moment to get US support for the war. Europeans will not be fooled.


105 posted on 04/03/2023 1:36:25 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: Pol-92064
We will all know when World War three happens as we are vaporized by nuclear bombs.

I'm not worried at all. First off, this is far less threatening than the Berlin Crisis or the Cuban Missile Crisis which I already survived. Second, I'm so close to a probable ground zero I'll be blasted into a plasma before I can even feel anything.

106 posted on 04/03/2023 1:37:00 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: nickfrost1
If it does not have the means to attack Russia, how can it be a threat? In addition, if the US did attack Cuba or Venezuela, would it annex any territory?

This war is simply about Russia trying to annex Ukraine, that's all. All the claims of "provocation" and the like are simply bull.

107 posted on 04/03/2023 1:40:17 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
Reminds me of Poland attacking Germany before WW II.

Huh?

108 posted on 04/03/2023 1:40:31 PM PDT by CrosscutSaw
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To: pierrem15

Berlin Crisis or the Cuban Missile Crisis which I already survived. ==

SO you are very old. Then indeed you have nothing to worry because you already lived out your life and anyways soon will be your turn off. BUT what about your children and grandchildren will they be same ok with it?


109 posted on 04/03/2023 1:42:53 PM PDT by nickfrost1
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To: pierrem15

If it does not have the means to attack Russia, how can it be a threat?==

As a part of NATO they will have means. SO this war is just preemptive to eliminate a threat which West created.


110 posted on 04/03/2023 1:44:25 PM PDT by nickfrost1
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To: CrosscutSaw

Before WW 2 Started Germany sent commandos dressed as Polish soldiers to attack a German radio station and that is why Hitler declared war on Poland. A good ole false flag operation.


111 posted on 04/03/2023 1:44:54 PM PDT by Pol-92064
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To: nickfrost1

Even NATO itself isn’t a threat Russia. As I said, it’s all simply an excuse for Russian aggression.


112 posted on 04/03/2023 1:59:45 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: pierrem15

Even NATO itself isn’t a threat Russia. ==

Hitler told same thing before 1941. And Japan too. But those who believed them proved fools.

If you have means to harm me then you are a threat to me. And if I’m not a fool I will do a precautions. And more you talk about you not a threat having such means then more suspicious I become if I simply don’t trust you. That is simple.

The diplomacy is a way of lies.


113 posted on 04/03/2023 2:04:44 PM PDT by nickfrost1
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To: skeeter

The war will be won not in Ukraine but on the streets of Berlin, Paris and Rome. If German Gov. Falls and orders the US Army and Nukes out—or signs a peace treaty with Putin—we are done. This can get really bad really fast.


114 posted on 04/03/2023 2:06:02 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: nickfrost1
NATO has neither the means nor the intent to invade Russia. If it had wanted to, it could have attacked in the 90s when Russia was even weaker than now and NATO was comparatively much stronger.

It's always the same story with Russia, it attacks its neighbors and then complains its new borders are threatened.

115 posted on 04/03/2023 3:57:44 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Jim Noble
In 1991, we should have asked Saddam to go all the way to Riyadh. It would have saved us enormous amounts of money, and tens of thousands of our best killed and maimed, all for nothing.

How does that enrich the Western military-industrial complex?   

116 posted on 04/03/2023 4:15:16 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: pierrem15

NATO has neither the means nor the intent to invade Russia.==

Funny))). DO I have to take your word on this?

If it had wanted to, it could have attacked in the 90s when Russia was even weaker than now==

NATO couldn’t do it then because in 1990th Russia had a whole nuclear potential of SU and it was even bigger than today’s.


117 posted on 04/03/2023 4:20:17 PM PDT by nickfrost1
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To: nickfrost1

If NATO was wanting to invade Russia they would have done it when NATO was at its most powerful with all of the forces in place at the front, when the Russian empire collapsed and all their slave nations were screaming for NATO to help them.

NATO had no interest in taking Russia or they would have.

Russia on the other hand would have taken Europe if that situation of 1991 had been reversed.


118 posted on 04/03/2023 5:07:29 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: nickfrost1

So when taking Russia would have been easy NATO didn’t do it because of nuclear weapons, but suddenly now, those same Europeans with their reduced militaries and continued disinterest in taking Russia, are suddenly eager to attack Russia and start a nuclear war for no known reason.

Nobody in the West wants Russia.


119 posted on 04/03/2023 5:11:21 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

NATO had no interest in taking Russia or they would have.==

Yeah and I must trust your word on it? Hence at same time you must trust my word that Russian nuclear missiles do not threaten NATO countries. Russia doesn’t have an interest to take them. Agreed?


120 posted on 04/03/2023 7:52:54 PM PDT by nickfrost1
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