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To: Morgana

“I counted at least 18 shots in the video to take her down.”

Police are usually trained to empty their weapons at a target.

But if you did it then those same cops would arrest you and drag you off to jail.

Not saying they did anything wrong here. I’m saying that if you or I had done the exact same thing to neutralize that monster it would not have been wrong.


2 posted on 03/28/2023 9:37:08 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: MeganC

I noticed the one officer fired 4 shots on her while she was down and wondered why he did that. I mean at this point I don’t care, she fucked around and found out. She should not have been trying to kill kids. Still I thought it strange.


11 posted on 03/28/2023 9:48:35 AM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor. )
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To: MeganC; Morgana

When was the last time you two responded to an a ti e shooter in a school.

And police are NOT TRAINED to empty their weapons.

Contrary to popular belief, one round from an AR15 will not sent someone flying across the room.

The two of you are absolute morons.


23 posted on 03/28/2023 10:04:59 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: MeganC

Well, the officers are trained to fire until the threat is eliminated. She was still moving on the ground and was not following commands to stop moving and reaching for the weapon - thus the officers fired. I have been an adjunct trainer for officers at Metro Nashville Police Department’s academy. I know one of the two officers that made contact with and eliminated the threat, having spoken with him within the last 45 days or so. I am very proud of how all these officers worked the rooms until they were better able to locate the shooter and then take care of situation. This is the complete opposite of the Texas school shooting debacle where we saw the officers standing around for far too long, at the cost of many lives.

As far as “... if you did it then those same cops would arrest you and drag you off to jail”: Not in Tennessee. Tennessee law requires that the first shot fired be justified. Follow-up shots are considered to be automatically justified. This is not to say you can stand over a downed bad guy and issue a coup-de-grace shot to the back of the head... It is written in this manner to protect someone that defended themselves from being “second-guessed” by those that weren’t there as witnesses. Those that would say “Well why did you have to shoot him so many times?” The ones that have never seen how many rounds a guy amped up on drugs and adrenaline can absorb before he finally goes down. After your self defense shooting, it would then come down to your state of mind (”in fear for my life”) and whether or not the D.A. believed you. We have many very good D.A.s in Tennessee once you get outside of the metro areas. The kind of D.A.s that side with those that defend themselves in righteous shootings, the kind that believe in the 2nd Amendment.


53 posted on 03/28/2023 11:18:21 AM PDT by Raven6 (Psalm 144:1 and Proverbs 22:3)
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To: MeganC
Police are usually trained to empty their weapons at a target.

That is total BS. I'm retired LE and military and in both career fields we were taught to fire two rounds to center mass, stop and make sure the world around us was a safe place, and to reassess and make sure the threat was in fact neutralized. The only time that changed was when we deployed to Afghanistan and we trained firing two rounds to center mass and one round to the head due to the potential of hostiles wearing body armor. This pertains to pistols. The minimum response for other weapon platforms is different. But mag dumps are not how we were trained in the past.

59 posted on 03/28/2023 12:29:13 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (There are three kinds of rats: Rats, Damned Rats, and DemocRats.)
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To: MeganC
"...Police are usually trained to empty their weapons at a target.....

No, they're not. I don't know who made that up but it's a pretty silly idea.

In the civilian world, no one is justified in firing on any person who doesn't threaten them (or a 3rd party) with risk of death or serious bodily harm. The standard most police departments train to is to continue firing so long as the perp has possession and control of a weapon and refuses to submit to the officer(s).

Five or so years ago the Atlantic City PD fired up a gang-banger zoomin' on PCP 45 times. 60-ish rounds fired and 45 entry wounds. There was great hue and cry from the usual suspects (even the owner of Alienware Holsters called it excessive, and lived to regret opening his mouth). The grand jury declined to indict because one officer's dashcam showed the perp still had a handgun in his possession until the 45th shot.

But even cops can't keep shooting just because they haven't yet run out of bullets.

63 posted on 03/28/2023 7:37:30 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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