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Self-driving cars. Big deal!!

Posted on 03/22/2023 5:33:36 AM PDT by Scooter100

When my father (b.1924, d.2017) was in his teens, it was a big event to finally be able to borrow the family horse and wagon to go into town on a Saturday night. Early Sunday morning, Dad recalled he would invariably fall asleep on the return trip home, only to wake up with the wagon and horse standing beside his house. It turns out that the horse knew the 6-mile route by heart and would simply carry on while Dad snoozed on the buckboard. Today, they get all excited about "self-driving" cars. Big deal. Nothing new!


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1 posted on 03/22/2023 5:33:36 AM PDT by Scooter100
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To: Scooter100

Some reports indicate that allowing the horse to pick his route without supervision leads to accidents since most horses can’t read road signs. They run stop signs, etc.


2 posted on 03/22/2023 5:39:39 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: Scooter100

Horses are more akin to chauffeurs than robots.


3 posted on 03/22/2023 5:41:40 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Scooter100

Years ago a fellow in my hometown would take his horse and buggy to the VFW club. The horse was the sober driver.


4 posted on 03/22/2023 5:44:04 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE
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To: Scooter100

Even though a horse has very limited mental capacity, it is smarter than some AI driven car. The horse has senses and skills that equates to a safer ride.

Personally, I’d trust a horse.


5 posted on 03/22/2023 5:48:53 AM PDT by redfreedom (You can vote your way into socialism, but you may have to shoot your way out.)
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To: redfreedom

Same here.


6 posted on 03/22/2023 5:51:37 AM PDT by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure.)
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To: DugwayDuke

Sheesh, lighten up, I wasn’t advocating it. It’s a humorous story about a farm boy in the 1930’s. Besides, there were few road signs or stop signs out in the rural countryside in those days, let alone any traffic on a Sunday morning.


7 posted on 03/22/2023 5:54:34 AM PDT by Scooter100
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Years ago at the dinner table my brother poked fun at my mother, saying she probably rode to school in a horse-drawn wagon. My father, who rarely spoke up, said, "She probably didn't. But I did."

We've laughed on that for decades. LOL

8 posted on 03/22/2023 6:00:15 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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Now you’ve done it. You’ve aroused all the solemn, humorless folks here who are going to now get all worked up over your little anectode and let you know how unsafe it was for your Dad to fall asleep on the wagon while the horse took him home after those Saturday night forays into town.


9 posted on 03/22/2023 6:03:04 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (4,942,927 Truth | 87,539,833 Twitter)
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To: Scooter100

Good story!

A modern driverless car has more horsepower, but less horse sense.


10 posted on 03/22/2023 6:08:55 AM PDT by ChessExpert (Informed consent: "We have a new, experimental vaccine you might want to consider.")
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To: Scooter100

The horse had more intelligence than most “artificial intelligence” systems.


11 posted on 03/22/2023 6:10:37 AM PDT by I want the USA back (News media and democrats are pond scum. My pronouns: Haha, heehee, hoho, hoo )
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To: Scooter100

My friend’s daughter has a masters in biomedical engineering and works as a researcher in a university lab which happens to do research on passengers involved in crashes in self driving cars. Her daughter told her she will absolutely never ride in one after she’s learned how easily they malfunction.


12 posted on 03/22/2023 6:15:59 AM PDT by FrdmLvr
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To: Tell It Right

Ain’t that the truth. Rigging and hitching up a horse to a wagon was certainly part of the male’s task domain. Not that I have anything against the idea of women performing it; but, you know, back then they just wouldn’t have typically done that. Men wouldn’t have been caught sticking their nose in the kitchen, and women wouldn’t have stuck their nose in the stables. It is just the facts of history...good or bad, like it or leave it.


13 posted on 03/22/2023 6:16:07 AM PDT by Scooter100
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To: Scooter100

When I used to walk to the grocery store in college, I took my roommate’s dog. The dog always wanted to carry a bag when I came back out fo the store. And the dog would walk ahead of me back to the house and be waiting there with the bag in its mouth when I got there. It was impressive.


14 posted on 03/22/2023 6:31:24 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: Scooter100

It was not my intention to be critical.


15 posted on 03/22/2023 6:31:31 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: FrdmLvr

I figure these vehicles can only be as smart as the programmers... you know, the ones who came up with the bright idea.


16 posted on 03/22/2023 6:47:21 AM PDT by Ezekiel (🆘️ "Come fly with US". Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with Mars ♂️, aka every man)
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So many programmers are involved in killing humans (vid games) that it becomes a really tough stretch for them to actually save human lives (self-driving cars)!!

(That was humor, BTW, a joke; you know, like a joke)

17 posted on 03/22/2023 6:54:42 AM PDT by Scooter100
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To: SamAdams76

Like your comment about the Dudley-Do-Rights.

We hunt on horseback in winter, starting out for the high country from basecamp in the wee hours. From twilight onward, we stop and glass the distant hills, usually at the same spots. We dismount. The horses step off the trail and go to the very tree they’ve been tied to for years . . . even on the first ride of the new season.

Horses, man. If you could truly understand horses, you (I) would be a far better person.


18 posted on 03/22/2023 7:00:42 AM PDT by StAntKnee (Add your own danged sarc tag)
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“Horse sense”....does that refer to the human, or the horse?


19 posted on 03/22/2023 7:37:59 AM PDT by Scooter100
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To: redfreedom

As someone who works in AI and ML, I agree with you. It’s relatively easy to seed a set and run pattern recognition, but to react to the unknown is what tosses AI out of wac.

Sheep are kind of robotic in that respect - not wild sheep but the domesticated ones that we dumbed down


20 posted on 03/22/2023 8:56:19 AM PDT by Cronos
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