They’re both just talking about the existing system, taxation.
You get paid, minus fedgov tax. You pay mechanic, state/county/local sales tax comes out. Mechanic pays plumber, state/county/local sales tax comes out. You, mechanic and plumber all pay bills that have state/county/local taxes and fees. You, mechanic and plumber eat food including USDA inspected meat which is fedgov fees. We all buy fuels, more taxes and fees. All pay property tax.
More and more these days, it’s taxation without representation.
What’s coming is worse because that little bit of money that’s not being taken by fedgov/state/county/local will be shut off if you complain online about your grandchildren being taught perversity in school. The school that you pay for in property taxes.
Oh I get the whole Social Credit Score thing too. We will be enslaved by our currency.