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My wife and I installed a heat pump in our house a year or so back, to replace the old AC unit but with ahole quadrupling the price of gas, we also used the heat pump for heating this winter, sidelining our beloved radiant floor system.

When we finished installing it, it was announced that the R-410a was being forced out and replaced, the lifeblood of our new heat pump!

Cram down by the government and advantages given to chosen producers are the path to a corner-cutting crap product. Be it an EV or a heat pump.

I was recently reminded of "The Mythical Man-Month" and that clearly shows how it turns to crap. A fun read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month

1 posted on 03/03/2023 6:52:03 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Supposed to get 14” tonight with 35 mph winds.

Plenty of dry wood still in the racks.

What is a heat pump?


2 posted on 03/03/2023 6:54:59 PM PST by Jim Noble (You have sat too long for any good you have been doing)
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"The Mythical Man-Month" by Fred Brooks, has never been out of print. Truths for each new generation of "doers" to absorb.

If one woman can have a baby in 9 months, can 9 women have a baby in one month … ?

7 posted on 03/03/2023 7:23:27 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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The first air conditioning system we ever had installed
way back when I was a kid used ammonia as the refrigerant.


8 posted on 03/03/2023 7:24:32 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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phasedown of F-gas

Eat less garlic.


17 posted on 03/04/2023 1:43:29 AM PST by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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The Europeans got DAMN LUCKY this winter, as the temperature stayed warm and the US sent every drop of gas we could liquefy to there (thereby sending natural gas prices soaring in parts of America), after they allowed us to BLOW UP THEIR PIPELINES.

They keep doing these stunts and soon enough they’ll find that big-daddy US will no longer take care of them, and they simply freeze to death.


18 posted on 03/04/2023 3:16:33 AM PST by BobL
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What’s even more sick is that the 410a phaseout was supported and lobbied for in govt by all the trade organizations. They get a big pay day everytime this happens. New units. New tools. New training. The good news for you is 410 will be around for awhile yet. But it’s madness.


19 posted on 03/04/2023 4:31:38 AM PST by Rural_Michigan
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Keepin up with the greenies:
A) Amonia/No good
B) R-22/ No good
c) R-410/ No good
D) You’ll have no cooling and be happy


21 posted on 03/04/2023 4:54:24 AM PST by shoff (Vote Democrat it beats thinking!)
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My brother manufactures F-gases, and then vents with harmony.


22 posted on 03/04/2023 6:04:05 AM PST by GingisK
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Heat pumps generally work well in Southern climates where extreme cold isn’t a thing. For overnight lows in the 40s, it works well.

BUT... When it gets really cold, like below freezing and towards zero, they are much less efficient, and really suck up a lot of wattage.

I live in South Alabama and have two heat pump/air conditioners as I have a large, sprawling house with just my son. This Christmas, we had a week of extreme cold weather (for this area), and my electric bill was over $700. Never again!

I bought a couple of portable heaters for the rooms my son and I stay in and let the rest be cold, if it happens again!


23 posted on 03/04/2023 6:25:51 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (Gov't declaring misinformation is tyranny: “Who determines what false information is?” )
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Related update...

Heat pump warning as thousands in danger of no heating as it's 'too cold' for them to work A Labour peer has slammed the Scottish Government's plans to replace gas boilers with heat pumps, claiming they could expose people to Legionnaire's disease.

Problem is their Deep State doesn't care about that any more than ours does.

31 posted on 08/01/2023 3:47:03 AM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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