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1 posted on 02/28/2023 3:32:48 PM PST by nickcarraway
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This is not a bad drug. It should be used for diabetes. Considering the side effect profile it should not be used for weight loss. The manner in which she obtains the drug and little supervision by a doctor is dangerous. I have no problems with drugs being used for off patent purposes. I have a problem with the lack of medical supervision by doctors as is this case.

The stupid is strong in this girl.

cpdiii retired clinical pharmacist


2 posted on 02/28/2023 3:44:10 PM PST by cpdiii (cane cutter-deckhand-roughneck-oil field trash- drilling fluid tech-geologist-pilot- pharmacist)
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Just sat next to a dude on a plane whose entire left side rubbed against me the entire flight. The armrest was down when he sat, but I told him we could put it up because half his rear end was hiked up on it.

If only these drugs could get into the hands of obese patients without diabetes. Hopefully, after clinical trials the prices of the drugs in this article will go down so that everyone who needs them can access them.


3 posted on 02/28/2023 3:49:40 PM PST by Reddy (BO stinks)
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Or these people could just not eat as much; walk a little; and understand what they are normally feeling is not “hunger” but rather a drop in blood glucose.

Proper eating and nutrition is easy to achieve. It just takes a little time and some education.

I loose weight without shitting my brains out.


5 posted on 02/28/2023 3:52:14 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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Once upon a time, young women lost weight with a diet of Tab and Marlboro Lights.


9 posted on 02/28/2023 4:07:02 PM PST by irishjuggler
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My wife is a T1 diabetic. Insulin dependent with a continuous glucose monitor (Dexcom G6) and insulin pump (Tandem TSlim2). It's a closed-loop glucose/insulin system. When she plans to eat, she enters the approximate amount of carbs to the pump (or iPhone app). A "bolus" i.e. extra insulin is added on top of the "basal" i.e. constant insulin requirement. Sometimes exercise or food estimates are off and her blood glucose drops too quickly. The pump will stop adding insulin, but the "damage" is done. Too much insulin needs to be countered. Typically a small amount of glucose gel or a cookie can add enough glucose to counter a dangerous glucose low. Usually the problem resolves in 10 minutes.

Enter Ozempic. My wife's doctor prescribed Ozempic to help control appetite and glucose levels. The effect on her is to delay the dump of carbs from her stomach. She has to delay entering the carb estimate into the insulin pump to prevent having the insulin taking effect while the carbs from the meal are delayed leaving the stomach by the Ozempic. Sometimes she misjudges and faces a glucose level dropping and consuming glucose doesn't help because of the Ozempic. It's a potentially harmful situation for a T1 dependent on doing the delicate balancing act between insulin and glucose intake.

In the event that the glucose low becomes dangerous, she has a special nasal inhaler that causes a glucose dump into her blood. It's intended as a rescue tool in case of a severe low.

11 posted on 02/28/2023 4:10:23 PM PST by Myrddin
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I have type 2 diabetes, and last summer my doctor convinced me to try Trulicity, which is another manufacturers drug that works on the same principle as Ozempic.

Basically, they are antabuse for fat people. They make you sick to your stomach when you eat too much.

They do lower your average blood sugar a little, but at the price of being up at 3am with ‘nausea’ (and all the gross accompaniments of nausea).

After being up for five consecutive nights a few weeks ago, I decided that I would rather just try to eat a little more salad, a little fewer carbs, and get my 10,000 steps of walking in.

The fact that the FDA approved a drug that works by making you not want to eat because you’re sick all the time gives me even less confidence in them than I already have.


12 posted on 02/28/2023 4:15:19 PM PST by CaptainMorgantown
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How can anyone possibly write this much drivel?


15 posted on 02/28/2023 4:31:08 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance.)
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This article is just click bait and sensationalizes the issue.

Ozempic is semaglutide and it IS approved for weight loss by the FDA. The manufacturer changed the name and called it Wegovy, predictably they increased the prices for the weight loss version also. It's the EXACT same medicine, just sold under a different name and stamped "weight loss" on the box.

It's a myth that most people can lose weight and keep it off with diet and exercise. By the time someone resorts to medicine that costs $1400 a month they've tried everything else and it doesn't work. Everyone's body works differently, if they were the same then we'd all be 6'4" and could throw a football like Tom Brady. If you're skinny then pat yourself on the back because you won the genetic lottery, it's not because you worked harder.

Fat people are the last remaining group that it's fashionable to hate. Some jackasses just aren't happy unless they have someone to look down upon. These drugs have the potential to help an incredible number of people live a decent life but the media loves to sensationalize by focusing on a few hollywood types that take it to lose 10 lbs. They won't write an article about the guy that lost 150 lbs and now will live to see his kids goe to college.

18 posted on 02/28/2023 4:35:06 PM PST by GaryCrow
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Holy cow!!! A thousand bucks for that stuff.😱


19 posted on 02/28/2023 4:39:52 PM PST by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first, we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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This generations phen phen. Sides effects will eventually catch up to reality.


22 posted on 02/28/2023 4:52:12 PM PST by rarestia (“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.” -Hamilton)
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Ping for later


29 posted on 02/28/2023 5:59:39 PM PST by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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“Doctors have wide latitude to prescribe drugs off label for anyone they think may medically benefit,”

Except for ivermectin.


31 posted on 02/28/2023 6:05:48 PM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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Interesting. I think this $1400/month drug is what the Covid.xyz vaxxxxed and boostered crowd can put their weight loss fail in.


36 posted on 03/01/2023 8:00:53 AM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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Diet not drugs.


44 posted on 03/03/2023 7:03:48 PM PST by Golden Eagle (Florida is where WOKE goes to DIE!)
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