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We Have a Real UFO Problem. And It’s Not Balloons
politico.com ^ | Ryan Graves (retired Navy F/A-18F pilot)

Posted on 02/28/2023 8:18:09 AM PST by RoosterRedux

On a clear, sunny day in April 2014, two F/A-18s took off for an air combat training mission off the coast of Virginia. The jets, part of my Navy fighter squadron, climbed to an altitude of 12,000 and steered towards Warning Area W-72, an exclusive block of airspace ten miles east of Virginia Beach. All traffic into the training area goes through a single GPS point at a set altitude — almost like a doorway into a massive room where military jets can operate without running into other aircraft. Just at the moment the two jets crossed the threshold, one of the pilots saw a dark gray cube inside of a clear sphere — motionless against the wind, fixed directly at the entry point. The jets, only 100 feet apart, zipped past the object on either side. The pilots had come so dangerously close to something they couldn’t identify that they terminated the training mission immediately and returned to base.

“I almost hit one of those damn things!” the flight leader, still shaken by the incident, told us shortly after in the pilots’ ready room. We all knew exactly what he meant. “Those damn things” had been plaguing us for the previous eight months.

I joined the U.S. Navy in 2009 and underwent years of rigorous training as a pilot. Specifically, we are trained to be expert observers in identifying aircraft with our sensors and our own eyes. It’s our job to know what’s in our operating area. That’s why, in 2014, after upgrades were made to our radar system, our squadron made a startling discovery: There were unknown objects in our airspace.

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SharePlay Video Initially, the objects were showing up on our newly upgraded radars and we assumed they were “ghosts in the machine,” or software glitches. But then we began to correlate the radar tracks with multiple surveillance systems, including infrared sensors that detected heat signatures. Then came the hair-raising near misses that required us to take evasive action.

These were no mere balloons. The unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) accelerated at speeds up to Mach 1, the speed of sound. They could hold their position, appearing motionless, despite Category 4 hurricane-force winds of 120 knots. They did not have any visible means of lift, control surfaces or propulsion — in other words nothing that resembled normal aircraft with wings, flaps or engines. And they outlasted our fighter jets, operating continuously throughout the day. I am a formally trained engineer, but the technology they demonstrated defied my understanding.

After that near-miss, we had no choice but to submit a safety report, hoping that something could be done before it was too late. But there was no official acknowledgement of what we experienced and no further mechanism to report the sightings — even as other aircrew flying along the East coast quietly began sharing similar experiences. Our only option was to cancel or move our training, as the UAP continued to maneuver in our vicinity unchecked.

Nearly a decade later we still don’t know what they were.

When I retired from the Navy in 2019, I was the first active-duty pilot to come forward publicly and testify to Congress. In the years since, there has been some notable coverage of the encounters and Congress has taken some action to force the military and intelligence agencies to do much more to get to the bottom of these mysteries.

But there has not been anything near the level of public and official attention that has been paid to the recent shoot downs of a Chinese spy balloon and the three other unknown objects that were likely research balloons.

And that’s a problem.

Advanced objects demonstrating cutting-edge technology that we cannot explain are routinely flying over our military bases or entering restricted airspace.

“UAP events continue to occur in restricted or sensitive airspace, highlighting possible concerns for safety of flight or adversary collection activity,” the Director of National Intelligence reported last month, citing 247 new reports over the last 17 months. “Some UAP appeared to remain stationary in winds aloft, move against the wind, maneuver abruptly, or move at considerable speed, without discernible means of propulsion.”

The Navy has also officially acknowledged 11 near misses with UAP that required evasive action and triggered mandatory safety reports between 2004 and 2021. Advanced UAP also pose a growing safety hazard to commercial airliners. Last May, the Federal Aviation Administration issued an alert after a passenger aircraft flying over West Virginia experienced a rare failure of two major systems while passing underneath what appeared to be a UAP.

One thing we do know is these craft aren’t part of some classified U.S. project. “We were quite confident that was not the explanation,” Scott Bray, the deputy director of the Office of Naval Intelligence, testified before Congress last year.

Florida Sen. Marco Rubio confirmed in a recent interview that whatever the origin of these objects it is not the U.S. military. “We have things flying over our military bases and places where we’re conducting military exercises and we don’t know what it is and it isn’t ours,” said Rubio, who is vice chair of the Intelligence Committee.

President Joe Biden rightly points out the real national security and aviation safety risks, from “foreign intelligence collection” to “hazard to civilian air traffic,” that arise from low-tech “balloon-like” entities. I applaud his new order to create an interagency UAP taskforce and a government-wide effort to address unidentified objects, and his proposal to make sure all aerial craft are registered and identifiable according to a global standard is good common-sense.

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However, what the president did not address during his press conference Feb. 16 were the UAP that exhibit advanced performance capabilities. Where is the transparency and urgency from the administration and Congress to investigate highly advanced objects in restricted airspace that our military cannot explain? How will this new taskforce be more effective than existing efforts if we are not being clear and direct about the scope and nature of advanced UAP?

The American public must demand accountability. We need to understand what is in our skies — period.

In the coming days, I will launch Americans for Safe Aerospace (ASA), a new advocacy organization for aerospace safety and national security. ASA will support pilots and other aerospace professionals who are reporting UAP. Our goal is to demand more disclosure from our public officials about this significant safety and national security problem. We will provide credible voices, public education, grassroots activism and lobbying on Capitol Hill to get answers about UAP.

President Biden needs to address this issue as transparently as possible. The White House should not conflate the low-tech objects that were recently shot down with unexplained high-tech, advanced objects witnessed by pilots. Our government needs to admit that it is possible another country has developed game-changing technology. We need to urgently address this threat by bringing together the best minds in our military, intelligence, science and tech sectors. If advanced UAP are not foreign drones, then we absolutely need a robust scientific inquiry into this mystery. Obfuscation and denial are a recipe for more conspiracy theories and greater distrust that stymie our search for the truth.

We need a coordinated, data-driven response that unites the public and private sectors. The North American Aerospace Defense Command, the U.S. Space Force and a host of other military and civilian agencies need to be marshaled in support of a much more aggressive and vigilant effort, along with our scientific community and private industry.

Right now, the pieces of the UAP puzzle are scattered across silos in the military, government and the private sector. We need to integrate and analyze these massive data sets with new methods like AI. We also need to make this data available to the best scientists outside of government.

We have strong supporters of more data sharing. Sen. Rubio has suggested the Pentagon’s All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO), which was set up by Congress last year, share its data on unidentified objects with academic institutions and civilian scientific organizations. The American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics and the Galileo Project at Harvard, tech startups like Enigma Labs, and traditional defense contractors could all play a role.

Unfortunately, all UAP reports and videos are classified, meaning active-duty pilots cannot come forward publicly and FOIA requests are denied. These are two major steps backwards for transparency, but they can be mitigated with data-sharing.

I am impressed by the recent whistleblower protections enacted last year to encourage more pilots and others to come forward, and I support the fresh push by Rubio and Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) for full funding of AARO. Given the stakes, Congress also needs to fund grants for more scientific inquiry of UAP.

Above all, we need to listen to pilots. Military and civilian pilots provide critical, first-hand insights into advanced UAP. Right now, the stigma attached to reporting UAP is still too strong. Since I came forward about UAP in 2019, only one other pilot from my squadron has gone public. Commercial pilots also face significant risks to their careers for doing so.

New rules are needed to require civilian pilots to report UAP, protect the pilots from retribution, and a process must be established for investigating their reports. Derision or denial over the unknown is unacceptable. This is a time for curiosity.

If the phenomena I witnessed with my own eyes turns out to be foreign drones, they pose an urgent threat to national security and airspace safety. If they are something else, it must be a scientific priority to find out.


TOPICS: UFO's
KEYWORDS: uap; ufo; usn; usnavy
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To: G Larry
And when we miss and they perceive the aggression, followed by either defensive or retaliatory measures that we can’t cope with, then what?

Then at least we understand the nature of the threat. Right now we have no clew what they are. Delayed action could be catastrophic we just don't know.

41 posted on 02/28/2023 11:57:13 AM PST by usurper (AI was born with a birth defect.)
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To: Crusher138

Some claim there are 4 different races of alien which would explain the vast differences in craft.

But alien could also mean people who were here long ago - after 13,000 years (pre-Younger Dryas), they certainly would be alien to us.


42 posted on 02/28/2023 12:04:01 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: steve86
Because they were ordered to.

But why? Unless of course to accomplish the obvious...get rid of the evidence.

But why get rid of the evidence?

What are your thoughts on that?

43 posted on 02/28/2023 12:04:58 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: Crusher138

“The US Navy wants swarms of thousands of small drones
.... Budget documents reveal plans for the Super Swarm project”

https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/10/24/1062039/us-navy-swarms-of-thousands-of-small-drones/


44 posted on 02/28/2023 12:16:17 PM PST by Pelham
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To: usurper
"Perhaps it is time to shoot one down and see what it is and who it came from."
Might be hard to shoot down if they are some form of advanced hologram.
45 posted on 02/28/2023 12:26:52 PM PST by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: Hiddigeigei
Might be hard to shoot down if they are some form of advanced hologram.

I agree, I'm just wondering if we have ever tried? I seen no record of it. They say we can track them with a verity of sensors. We can generally hit anything we can track.

46 posted on 02/28/2023 12:42:55 PM PST by usurper (AI was born with a birth defect.)
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To: usurper

Easy for you to say....You’re not the pilot or squadron or city risking being blasted to hell.


47 posted on 02/28/2023 12:50:27 PM PST by G Larry ( "woke" means 'stupid enough to fall for the promotion of every human weakness into a virtue')
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To: RoosterRedux

UAP bump for later...


48 posted on 02/28/2023 12:51:59 PM PST by indthkr
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To: RoosterRedux

“What are your thoughts on that?”

No profound thoughts here, I think it was just political pressure to “do something”.


49 posted on 02/28/2023 12:56:05 PM PST by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: flamberge

I watched a show on Smithsonian channel very recently about Hynek and how he started out working many years for the Air Force attempting to squelch, silence and humiliate people who were reporting UFO sightings, only later to get out from under the program (blue book I believe) and into the private sector where you seemed to promote the idea that a certain percentage of sightings were not explainable by nature nor known man made technology.

The excuse they were giving for why the government would work so hard to suppress reporting and general knowledge about UFOs (this is the first time I’ve heard this excuse/theory) is for national security reasons they didn’t want the soviets or any enemies faking UFO sightings as a part of a diversion distracting from an attack or invasion. This makes very little sense. What enemy had the technology to penetrate our airspace and create fake UFO sightings in the first place??? This seems really weak at best, and if it was actually true, what would it say about the level of our enemy’s technology? Wouldn’t it even suggest that they though our enemies were behind the actual signtings, and not just potential distractions of them???

The most logical reason for suppressing the sightings so aggressively for so long is that it is neither alien nor foreign.


50 posted on 02/28/2023 1:16:25 PM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: z3n
Apparently, the Robertson Panel was formed to humiliate and stigmatize people who reported UFO sightings because the military was afraid UFO sightings might overwhelm or clog up the communication systems, giving the Russians a window to attack.

Ironcially, the refusal of the military to study UFO sightings is what gave China the window for its use of balloons (i.e., presumably our radar was set to filter out anything below a level at which ICMBs, bombers, or fighters might enter the country).

Funny how things work out.

51 posted on 02/28/2023 1:49:59 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: MeganC

We have lots of these things hidden away in secret locations—most controlled by private contractors:

https://www.congress.gov/117/meeting/house/114761/documents/HHRG-117-IG05-20220517-SD001.pdf


52 posted on 02/28/2023 1:56:37 PM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: G Larry
Easy for you to say.

Okay let's just ignore their violations of our airspace, surveillance of our nuke bases and surface navy fleet. I'm sure they have no ill will.

Let's just hope for the best.

53 posted on 02/28/2023 2:44:46 PM PST by usurper (AI was born with a birth defect.)
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To: Boogieman

“First rule of politics: never believe anything until it’s been officially denied.”

“Party Games”

Yes Minister


54 posted on 02/28/2023 3:00:03 PM PST by mywholebodyisaweapon ("Carthago Delenda Est")
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To: circlecity

” At this point science and reason don’t support it.”

At this point, there’s no reasoning behind science.


55 posted on 02/28/2023 4:06:19 PM PST by sergeantdave (AI is the next iteration of a copy and paste machine.)
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To: MeganC

Supposedly, after WW II, the result of a general “shoot them down” order as to UFOs was a dramatic rise in civilian and military air crashes attributable to UFOs. Various reports have it that an accommodation was reached with a representative ET species that we would not interfere with ET activities in return for them not disrupting human activities or making their presence generally known. In secret, the US has since then led an effort to understand UFOs and their technology and develop the basis for effective countermeasures.


56 posted on 02/28/2023 4:15:27 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: usurper

Thank you General Custer......


57 posted on 03/01/2023 6:49:19 AM PST by G Larry ( "woke" means 'stupid enough to fall for the promotion of every human weakness into a virtue')
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To: RoosterRedux

I’ll here by classify these threads with the babes threads and offer...

This Thread is Worthless Without Pics!!


58 posted on 03/01/2023 6:53:22 AM PST by sit-rep ( )
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To: RoosterRedux

Rooster:

The latest Jeremy Corbell/George Knapp “Weaponized” podcast has some new details that verify the Lazar story:

https://podbay.fm/p/weaponized-with-jeremy-corbell-and-george-knapp

Knapp does not think there were crashed saucers and at least one live alien at Area 51—he knows with metaphysical certainty—and explains why.

He also gives some history of a previous failed congressional investigation on this topic.


59 posted on 03/01/2023 12:11:56 PM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: cgbg

Will check it out. Thx.


60 posted on 03/01/2023 12:24:03 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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