Posted on 02/10/2023 12:59:33 PM PST by ShadowAce
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“Well, now that it’s being reported that Linux is as weak on viruses and malware as Windows, why bother?”
Because it is still not even close to as vulnerable as windows. It is still far far more secure than windows in structure alone.
“I recall downloading an app that allows you to learn and experiment with Ubuntu without actually instead of installing it until you’re ready.”
Just about all the Distros do that now. :)
I showed Mrs. Pete a few things on the desktop and she has pretty much transitioned to a Linux Mint desktop from Windows without any problem. Of course about all she does is write letters, use the calender, and surf the web with Firefox. Still, for most retired people that' pretty much all they need.
“I showed Mrs. Pete a few things on the desktop and she has pretty much transitioned to a Linux Mint desktop from Windows without any problem. Of course about all she does is write letters, use the calender, and surf the web with Firefox. Still, for most retired people that’ pretty much all they need. “
Yep, absolutely. It is easy peasy for normal use. Thank you for sharing that truth. :)
I was most;y being sarcastic. Just amused that were now seeing those types of articles regarding Linux’s weaknesses from a security standpoint.
https://techgenix.com/linux-security-threats/
...snip "The report also found that over 200 different vulnerabilities were targeted in Linux environments in just six months. It is also worth noting that a majority of the vulnerabilities detected were from systems running old or end-of-life versions of Linux. This elucidates that cybercriminals are likely taking advantage of older and outdated software with unpatched vulnerabilities and bugs." more at link
I see... But I don’t think it is weaknesses in Linux. I think they are just finally getting better at side skirting it’s true strengths. They make a big deal out of some of those bugs, but what they never share is that 99 out of a 100 require “hands on” to put it in the machine. That means for the home user, A hacker would have to physically come into their home and hack the password on their machine local and put the hack in. There has only been one or two that was an actual concern as an external remote non-local source. Compared to what? Thousands of remote bugs that windows has allowed in? Sometimes even from MicroSoft themselves...
There really is a huge difference when the whole story is told. :)
“Some info on Linux Security issues here.”
I know, I am fully up to date with it. Thing is when you dig into those you will find that 99 out of a 100 require “hands on” to put it in the machine. That means for the home user, a hacker would have to physically come into their home and hack the password on their machine local and put the hack in. Only 1 out of a 100 can be applied remotely, and only because the user flubbed and let it in without using discretion. User misjudgment and error is not the fault of Linux.
And that is good information to have out on the thread!
Thanks!
Truly my privilege. :)
Now when you have an environment where a lot of people are using a system, such as an office environment then some of these can indeed become a problem. But they still require hands on from one of the users who has access to the system. :)
ITT Technical Institute used to advertise they could prepare you for a job in Linux in six weeks...
... and look what happened to them.
I'd been doing remote support (via telnet & ftp) in HP-UX, AIX and Xenix for two years before I discovered UNIX even had a GUI.
I’m running Linux Mint 21.1 XFCE on an old 2008 Thinkpad T400, updated with maxed-out DDR-1600 RAM and SATA III SSD drive.
It runs like a champ — probably faster than it did under its original (*gag*) Windows Vista configuration.
It does just fine with basic light office use (LibreOffice), web surfing (Firefox) and sending e-mails (Thunderbird).
It also offers the option of more in-depth Linux learning if needed. LOVE IT.
I am doing the same with Mint cinnamon on a 2008 HP Pavillion.
I remember them but did not know what happened to them and so I did look:
ITT Technical Institute (ITT Tech) was a private for-profit technical institute with its headquarters in Carmel, Indiana and many campuses throughout the United States. Founded in 1969 and growing to 130 campuses in 38 states of the United States, ITT Tech was one of the largest for-profit educators in the US before it closed in 2016.[3].. In 1998, an ITT Tech whistleblower reported on the school's use of predatory recruitment practices.[6] In 2004, federal agents raided campuses in 10 states. However, the school continued to settle legal cases and collect billions of dollars in Pell Grants and federal student loans. Finally, in August 2016, following state and federal investigations, the United States Department of Education prevented students from using federally guaranteed student loans at ITT Tech locations. All ITT Tech campuses were closed the following month and ITT Tech filed for bankruptcy.[7]
In 2018, ITT Tech's court-appointed bankruptcy trustee sued the United States Department of Education and lenders to repay $1.5 billion in claims against ITT alleging that regulators took advantage of low-income students and neglected their oversight duties.[8] Three years later, the US Department of Education allocated $1.1 billion in relief to an additional 115,000 former ITT Tech students.[9] In 1946, ITT Tech was established as Educational Services, Inc.[10] From 1965 until its IPO in 1994, ITT Tech was a wholly owned subsidiary of the ITT Corporation (as "ITT/ESI")...By 1999, ITT Corporation had divested itself completely of ITT Tech's shares. The schools were allowed to continue using the "ITT" name under license.[13]...In 1999 Daniel Graves filed a whistleblower lawsuit against ITT Tech that lasted about 17 years. The case was closed in 2003, despite showing a culture of corruption.[51]
In about 2004, ITT Tech came under fire for questionable practices including allegations of high-pressure recruiting tactics, falsified paperwork, high default rates on ITT Tech student loans, and inadequate educational standards...n 2004, federal agents raided the company's headquarters and ten of its campuses in Indiana, Texas, Virginia, Florida, Louisiana, Nevada, California, and Oregon.[52] The investigation negatively affected the company's stock and triggered several class-action lawsuits by investors.[53][54] The same year, the Office of the Attorney General for the State of California ("CAG") investigated ITT Technical Institutes in California. The CAG's investigation was in response to qui tam actions filed against the company under either state, federal, or both False Claims Acts. (Qui tam actions are writs through which private individuals who assist a prosecution can receive part or all of the damages or financial penalties recovered by the government as a result of the prosecution). The probe alleged that ITT Tech falsified records relating to student attendance, grades, and academic progress. It also said that ITT Tech falsified student grade point average calculations used to qualify students for financial aid under the State's Cal Grant Program and retaliated against employees who may have complained about those alleged acts.[55] Omer Waddles, ESI's CEO, and a former counsel for Edward Kennedy, also resigned.[56][57]
In October 2005, ITT agreed to pay $730,000 to settle a lawsuit with California. The involved employees alleged that it inflated students' grade point averages to qualify them for more financial aid from the State of California.[58] A February 2011 investigative report by WTMJ-TV in Milwaukee found evidence of widespread grade inflation at the school's Milwaukee area location in Greenfield. In one instance a student received a score of 100% on a computer forensics assignment by emailing the professor a noodle recipe. The station believed this to be a way to increase federal student aid funding.[59] ... In 2013, ESI began operating public charter schools in three cities: Indianapolis, Tempe, and Troy, Michigan.[22] In charter documents, the company referred to potential students as "educational have-nots."[23] ITT Technical Institute charged among the highest tuition fees in the industry - between $45,000 to $85,000 in 2014 - and had the industry's highest rate of loans that went into default within two years of attendance.[24][25]
In 2016, Chinese investors Zhifeng Zhang and Yude Zhang became ESI insiders, purchasing more than 3,000,000 shares of ITT Educational Services stock.[26] In July 2016, ESI reported that enrollment was projected to drop by 30% to 40% from 2015 to 2016.[2] In August 2016, the U.S. Department of Education barred the company from enrolling new students who use government loans. On the 30th of the same month, ITT Technical Institute stopped accepting applications for new enrollment.[27][28] At that time, ITT Tech said that existing students could still finish their studies. ITT Tech also said that they would continue to operate until the last of its enrolled students either graduate or drop out.[28] However, on September 6, 2016, ITT Technical Institute announced that it was shutting down all of its campuses, effective immediately.[29]- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITT_Technical_Institute
The problem was not tech, but a corrupted managerial OS.
Me, asking a couple of Linux nerds:
“Hey, real quick, what’s the command to see the contents of a directory?”
Me, after two hours of listening to the Linux nerds discuss the various commands, arguments, switches, piping, formatting, and version differences:
“So just ‘ls’, then. Thanks.”
“The report also found that over 200 different vulnerabilities were targeted in Linux environments in just six months. “
Most noteworthy is ... vunerabilities are everywhere
If you have Windows you depend on Microsoft staff for fixes
If you have a Mac, the same with Apple
If you have linux, there are thousands of geeks at work 24/7 to reveal and fix any issues. The others are big conglomerate to decide what needs fixing or what is a feature (aka backdoor)
Thanks! I didn’t know that.
“If you have linux, there are thousands of geeks at work 24/7 to reveal and fix any issues. The others are big conglomerate to decide what needs fixing or what is a feature (aka backdoor)”
ABSOLUTELY! Thank you!
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