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To: TonyinLA

You guys must have hated Reagan.


5 posted on 02/02/2023 6:20:17 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

If you actually believe Elensky and Reagan belong in the same sentence, you have far bigger problems than a lack of analytical skill.


8 posted on 02/02/2023 6:23:19 PM PST by TonyinLA ( I don't have sufficient information to make an informed opinion said no lefty ever.)
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To: ifinnegan

Ok, how does Reagan fit in here? I just had to ask.


11 posted on 02/02/2023 6:25:48 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: ifinnegan

Worse from the standpoint of today’s Republican war lobby was Reagan’s response to the Polish crisis. Lech Walesa and the Solidarity movement were a global inspiration but the Polish military, fearing Soviet intervention, imposed martial law in 1981. Again, Reagan’s response was, well, appeasement. No bombers flew, no invasion threatened, no soldiers marched. He continued to contain Moscow and challenge its moral foundation. But like Dwight Eisenhower in 1953 and 1956 and Lyndon Johnson in 1968, Reagan did not risk a general war to help liberate Eastern Europeans when they opposed Soviet troops. Indeed, from Reagan came no military moves, no aggressive threats, no economic sanctions. Reagan did little other than wait for the Evil Empire to further deteriorate from within.

Little other than talk, that is. Reagan wanted to negotiate from a position of strength, but he wanted to negotiate. And despite his image as a crazed cowboy and mad Cold Warrior, he negotiated over arms reduction with … the Soviet Union. For example, he used the deployment of intermediate-range nuclear missiles to win the withdrawal of both nations’ weapons.

from 1983 onward, Reagan devoted more of his foreign policy time to arms control than to any other subject.” Reagan spoke of peace when he addressed Soviet students in Moscow in 1988. Norman Podhoretz, the neocon godfather, denounced Reagan for “appeasement by any other name.”

Reagan was willing to switch rhetoric and policy when circumstances changed, in this case, the nature of the Soviet regime. He had no illusions, unlike some observers, that enjoying jazz made former KGB chief Yuri Andropov, who replaced Brezhnev, into a closet liberal. In contrast, Reagan understood that Mikhail Gorbachev was different. A reform Communist, Gorbachev nevertheless humanized the system and kept the military in its barracks. Reagan worked with the Soviet leader, despite heartfelt criticism from his own staffers and fevered denunciations from activists—dissention that Reagan acknowledged in his diary. Gorbachev later wrote that Reagan “was looking for negotiations and cooperation.” Or, in a word, appeasement.

Reagan used the military in combat only three times, and not to impose democracy, rebuild failed states or overthrow dictators.
https://nationalinterest.org/feature/betrayed-why-reagan-would-be-ashamed-the-neocons-12732


16 posted on 02/02/2023 6:31:01 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: ifinnegan

They still hate Reagan.


18 posted on 02/02/2023 6:32:40 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: ifinnegan

Reagan was being satirical.

Zelenski is being serious.


22 posted on 02/02/2023 6:35:35 PM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: ifinnegan
You guys must have hated Reagan.

The guy who said he'd share SDI technology with the Soviets?

Your even dumber than I thought...

43 posted on 02/02/2023 7:09:35 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: ifinnegan
"You guys must have hated Reagan."

You are comparing Zelensky to President Reagan? Good lord, Zelensky is a tawdry, grifting, little poofter.

44 posted on 02/02/2023 7:12:06 PM PST by wildcard_redneck (Germans are bat-crap crazy for cold showers, high energy bills, and boiled turnips.)
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To: ifinnegan

Yes, except Reagan was joking and this turd is serious.


64 posted on 02/02/2023 8:19:22 PM PST by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: ifinnegan

“You guys must have hated Reagan.”

Reagan only ONCE called for a nuclear war, yet the Neocons are all but demanding one now, in addition to many in Europe, and of course Ukraine.


81 posted on 02/02/2023 11:44:58 PM PST by BobL
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To: ifinnegan; MalPearce
What is not getting posted much to this forum is what Europe sees of Russia via Russian sources and Russian state TV, what Julia Davis covers on her Russia Media Monitor.

I watched the tweet (Breaking FR Rules about, never read the thread before posting). Russian state TV has called for attacking NATO nations. Zelensky response is maybe NATO should preemptively respond in kind first.

He's meeting their tough talk with his own, and telling NATO to pay attention to the threats Kremlin is putting out on Russian TV.

86 posted on 02/03/2023 1:44:30 AM PST by Widget Jr
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