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Scientists inject fish with alligator DNA to create mutant creatures that live longer
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Posted on 02/02/2023 8:09:25 AM PST by BenLurkin

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To: Red Badger
What could possibly go wrong?.....................

Oh, nothing. Nothing at all.

All the best ideas com from low budget Sci-Fi movies like Dinoshark.


61 posted on 02/02/2023 10:35:23 AM PST by seowulf (Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos...Will Durant)
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To: dfwgator
Can they attach lasers to their heads while they’re at it?

What's with the frickin' obsession with frickin' lasers?

:^)

62 posted on 02/02/2023 10:43:40 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: BenLurkin

These people need to be forced to watch Jurassic Park.


63 posted on 02/02/2023 10:52:20 AM PST by Arcadian Empire (The Baric-Daszak-Fauci spike protein, by itself, is deadly.)
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To: Fai Mao

...After you hack ‘em apart with a hatchet and / or reciprocating saw. Granted, I’ve only caught longnose and spotted gar, but, they are the toughest fish to clean I ever tried to harvest. Pretty good smoked, but, not worth the effort.


64 posted on 02/02/2023 10:54:39 AM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: BenLurkin

I believe this isa criminal act, they have no idea what they are creating, this is no different than ‘attempting’ to clone humans. it should be illegal.


65 posted on 02/02/2023 10:55:52 AM PST by oil_dude
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To: null and void

Sure. Let me go find a Torah that is numbered.


66 posted on 02/02/2023 11:00:28 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: BenLurkin

Frankenfish.


67 posted on 02/02/2023 11:31:21 AM PST by just Grace
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To: just Grace

The Gorn.


68 posted on 02/02/2023 12:09:43 PM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: Paul R.

Use to live South of Possum Kingdom Lake.

When the spillways opened the river would rise about 10 feet. Then they close the spillways and Gar and catfish were left stranded in the trees along the bank. It’s the easiest fishing you’ll ever do!


69 posted on 02/02/2023 12:12:05 PM PST by Fai Mao (Stop feeding the beast, and steal its food!)
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To: null and void

I can’t find an English translation, but it’s Leviticus 19:19. It’s also later in Deuteronomy 22:9-12.

Here is my pathetic attempt at translation:

“You must obey My Law. You must not let your animals breed with animals of a different kind. You must not plant your field with two kinds of seed. You must not wear clothing made from two kinds of material mixed together.”

The forbidden idea of mixing species (or things, like fabrics) is called “Kilayim” in Judaism.

It’s not an obscure idea; looking at my index, there are 70-80 mishnahs on the topic of cross-breeding.

Maimondes in his book is very specific what this meant:

When a person causes a male to enter into relations with a female of a different species - whether a domesticated animal, a wild beast, a fowl, even different types of sea-animals - he is liable for lashes according to Scriptural Law. [This applies] in all places in Eretz Yisrael and in the Diaspora, as [Leviticus 19:19] states: “You shall not mate your animal with another species.”

This applies whether the animal, beast, or fowl belongs to him or to a colleague.

(from Maimondes — Kilaayim - Chapter 9

HaShem’s reasoning is not known. Note the “You must obey My Laws” bit at the beginning.

The word for “statutes” in the original Hebrew is “chukim” (חקים), which usually refers to those laws which have no known reason.

This basically translates to “because I said so.” Any parent knows why you say that. The kid is not ready for the discussion.

Um? Maybe because you are Bronze Age morons and haven’t figure out DNA?

Nevertheless, Nachmanides took a stab at it:

G‑d instilled in the various species the ability to reproduce so that that species will continue to exist for as long as He wishes. When one crossbreeds (whether animals or plants), it is as if the person is indicating that G‑d didn’t create all necessary beings, and this person wants to assist in the creation of the world.

Additionally, crossbreeding means that the species that was meant to be continued through the power of reproduction is now being (somewhat) discontinued, and instead producing a different species.


70 posted on 02/02/2023 12:25:06 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: PTBAA

They tried with Republican Senators.

They considered it a partial success. They stand up to their voters.


71 posted on 02/02/2023 12:27:53 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: BenLurkin

Oh, that explains a lot about my wife.


72 posted on 02/02/2023 12:31:08 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Figures )
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To: George from New England
You can with certainty know it's not just animals being used for DNA cross experiments.


73 posted on 02/02/2023 12:31:50 PM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: Jewbacca

Wow!

I knew of the mixed fibers ban, but not the context. It now makes much more sense.

No mules?

No three sisters planting?

Hybrid corn probably ok as it’s different strains of the same kind/corn?


74 posted on 02/02/2023 12:36:55 PM PST by null and void (You can’t have a police state without a state police.)
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To: BenLurkin

I believe this isa criminal act, they have no idea what they are creating, this is no different than ‘attempting’ to clone humans. it should be illegal.


75 posted on 02/02/2023 12:38:59 PM PST by oil_dude
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To: null and void

Yes corn is fine.

There is a ton written about mules, actually. If it happens by accident, what to do, etc. May or may not be OK, depending on if you consider a horse and donkey the same “kind”. Opinions differ.

As with a bunch of other close questions (e.g. fruit trees, dogs and wolves, etc). Things that breed naturally give rise to reasoned disagreement.

But an alligator and catfish? Nope.

And the “because I said so” makes perfect sense now in the age of DNA splicing. Some horrid monsters will one day arise from this.


76 posted on 02/02/2023 12:43:04 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca
How about derivatives? Would milk or meat from a beefalo be OK? My sense is no, fruit of a poisoned tree, or unevenly yoked plowmates.

How about an antibiotic or vaccine developed using humice, mice with human immune systems? Dicey. Although nothing from the animal is in the final product, and the human immune system is used to add an immune system to an immunodeficient mouse without cross breeding the species, per se it's the animal equivalent of flax and cotton fabric.

77 posted on 02/02/2023 1:07:49 PM PST by null and void (You can’t have a police state without a state police.)
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To: null and void

There are literally thousands of pages written on that by people smarter than me. All well reasoned.

I just stick to the basics: I don’t do it.

If I happen to have a donkey and horse get busy, then I’ll worry about it.

And I know we shouldn’t mix fish and alligators. Heck, anyone who watched a sci-fi show.


78 posted on 02/02/2023 1:23:42 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

Better to err on the side of caution!


79 posted on 02/02/2023 1:27:32 PM PST by null and void (You can’t have a police state without a state police.)
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To: ansel12

Oof!


80 posted on 02/02/2023 6:10:41 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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