Posted on 01/24/2023 1:09:06 PM PST by absalom01
With Jacinda Ardern's welcome exit from the ranks of world political leaders, leaving a shambles of constitutional freedom and human rights in her wake, now is perhaps an opportune time to reconsider the passage of the 19th amendment in American politics as part of our ongoing series of "To Save America" modest proposals advocating repeal of the most destructive tamperings with the original Constitution. We've already made the arguments for the repeal of the 16th, 17th, 18th (done!), and 26th amendments, so now it's time for the women's suffrage movement to take its turn in the barrel.
Oops.
Start with this: there is no intrinsic, enumerated right to vote in the Constitution; eligibility was left up to each state. Voting therefore is neither a civil right nor a God-given natural right (as history clearly shows), but an earned privilege to be granted under certain circumstances or after an individual had satisfied various specified criteria such as attaining the age of his majority, being a male, a property owner, etc.
This was an outgrowth of the original conception of the United States as a voluntary alliance of hitherto sovereign states, each of which ceded some portion of its autonomy to the new federal government, but which reserved all other rights to itself. Indeed, the Tenth amendment makes this explicit: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." In other words, the federal government did not create the states, they created the federal government.
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Too late, we cannot even define what a woman is anymore.
You’ll never get the genie back in the bottle. You won’t even be able to convince half of men that we should do this, because men are far too worried about what women think about them.
As much as I would hate it since my ancestors fought for for this country, I would give up my right to vote if it kept all of those stupid women out there from voting.
In a heartbeat.
It will have to wait until after the war ... unfortunately ...
Anyway, even if the 19th Amendment were repealed, that wouldn't work, in and of itself, to strip the franchise away from women. States establish, in the first instance, the qualifications for voting. All that the 19th Amendment did was preclude states from restricting the franchise on the basis of sex. So the individual states would have to take away the franchise from women. And how do you think that would work out?
Start with this: there is no intrinsic, enumerated right to vote in the Constitution …Only if you regard the 15th Amendment as not part of the Constitution. That is the first amendment to include the phrase “right to vote”.
Every time this discussion comes up about the most destructive amendments, I notice people *ALWAYS* leave out the 24th, which I believe is the absolutely most destructive amendment of them all, with the 14th being a close second.
Why can't people focus on the 24th? Do they not grasp what it has done to the nation financially?
Yes, the 26th is a bad amendment, and so are several of the others, but the 24th is what has been financially killing us since 1964.
A venture with no political upside.
Winning elections by doing something catastrophically stupid is going to bite everyone in the @$$ anyway. The point here is that if women believe in stupid things and vote stupidly, we will all get destroyed as the country fails.
All that the 19th Amendment did was preclude states from restricting the franchise on the basis of sex. So the individual states would have to take away the franchise from women. And how do you think that would work out?
I acknowledge that it cannot be done through the normal legal process. We can't get there from here.
Doesn't mean we shouldn't recognize it as the problem it has become. We need to remember not to make this same mistake in the subsequent system of government.
14th amendment, section 2
“But when the right to vote at any election...”
So,then Mike Obama could still vote?
Thanks for the correction.
TR was not all that bad and did some very good things.
After women got to vote we got nearly 4 terms of Franklin D Roosevelt socialism. Then we got John Kennedy Socialism. Then we got Lyndon Johnson Socialism. Then we got Jimmy Carter stupidity. Then we got human garbage Bill Clinton. Then we got race hustler Barack Obama, we almost got the horrible witch bitch Hitlery, and finally we got the dumbest most corrupt piece of sh*t we could have gotten.
So one mistake with Wilson under the old system, versus many far more serious mistakes after the 19th.
I see a sense of creeping fraud denial. Is there an implication that no women voted for Nixon, Reagan or Trump?
There are other demographics which also vote liberal.
Why does anyone not suggest repealing the 15th Amendment? Of course, NOBODY is going to touch that with a ten foot pole.
Why are women fair game but not Catholics, Jews, blacks, etc, who are also known to by and large vote liberal?
And of course, history bears out that if men were in charge of government, this world would be a utopia, right?
Also to consider is that that sword cuts both ways.
What if the government decided to deny the right to vote based on religious beliefs and decided that they didn’t like Christian morals that say abortion is wrong and homosexuality is wrong, and marriage is between one man and one woman, therefore Christians should be denied the right to vote because Christians don’t vote the way the government likes?
Does anyone think through the consequences of what they advocate these days and realize how it can be turned and used against them?
My mother cancels my vote every damned time. And she gets all her political information from “The View”
FWIW, most Pennsylvania localities STILL have poll taxes, most commonly called a “per capita” tax. They just can’t be tied to the voter franchise.
America can’t be saved..until the big crash..then it’s anybody’s guess what will emerge.
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