Posted on 01/24/2023 8:41:40 AM PST by 6thavenue
Trump was telling the rest of our NATO alliance to build up, while he was strengthening our own military against the Russians.
Biden has been blocking the jets that Trump wanted Ukraine to have.
This is why it doesn’t pay to spend time with you.
You posted this without seeing that it made my point, and in fact, you used the very interview and just got it all muddled in your mind.
“”Varney pressed Trump on “what extra military help you would give to the Ukrainians. You say you want to do more than just the MiG jets or the Javelins.”
“Well, I think the drones are just as effective as anything nowadays,” Trump said.
Drones are not jets””
Now look at what you posted “YOU SAY YOU WANT TO DO MORE THAN JUST THE MiG JETS or the Javelins.”
Varney said that because Trump had just answered a question about the jets that Biden blocked.
STUART: THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER WE SHOULD SEND JETS, MIG JETS TO UKRAINIAN AIR FORCE, WOULD YOU SEND IN THAT
KIND OF HELP?
TRUMP-WELL MAYBE EVEN MORE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU,
STUART: WHAT, MR. PRESIDENT?
TRUMP—I’M THE ONE THAT WOULD HAVE SAID, LET ME JUST EXPLAIN THAT PUTIN IS SAYING THINGS LIKE DON’T YOU DARE SEND ANYTHING IN.
IN THE MEANTIME HE’S KILLING THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF
PEOPLE, SO HE’S ACTING LIKE WE’RE AN AGGRESSOR IF WE SEND
IN OLD 44-YEAR-OLD PLANE THAT PROBABLY GETS SHOT AT IN THE
SKY PRETTY QUICKLY, AND HE’S ACTING LIKE WE’RE TERRIBLE
PEOPLE IF WE DO THAT, BUT HE’S KILLING TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, FAR MORE THAN THEY ARE REPORTING.
YOU DON’T KNOCK DOWN THOSE
2:43
BUILDINGS AND BLOW UP
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THOSE BUILDINGS AND THEY SAY TWO
2:46
PEOPLE ARE INJURED SLIGHTLY, AND
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THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ARE BEING
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KILLED, AND WHEN HE SAYS DON’T
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YOU DARE DO THAT, AND WE ALL SAY
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OH, HE SAID DON’T DO IT, THE
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FACT IS THAT WHAT HE’S DOING
2:59
IS A HUMAN TRAGEDY.
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THERE’S NOT BEEN ANYTHING LIKE
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THIS IN A SENSE MAYBE EVER, BUT
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CERTAINLY SINCE WORLD WAR II
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WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, BUT THERE’S
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NEVER BEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS.
Former President Donald Trump said the United States doesn't need to send old Soviet jets to Ukraine to stop Putin's slaughter.
The whole video is only 2 minutes & 30 seconds long, so I'm not sure what you are quoting there with your time references. None of what you even mention was in either the video or the written words, from this point down in your post:
TRUMP—I’M THE ONE THAT WOULD HAVE SAID, LET ME JUST EXPLAIN THAT PUTIN IS SAYING THINGS LIKE DON’T YOU DARE SEND ANYTHING IN.
Are you referencing something other than what I sent you?
Furthermore the Javelins missiles he sent was before he left office.
Bottom line, is Trump is talking after the fact that Russia invaded. Trump has boasted many times that Russia would not have invaded had the election not been stolen. we will never know, because it was stolen. He has also said that he would have prevented a Russian invasion. How would he do this? Supposedly he was against sending our troops into war without a clear strategy. But one thing you can be certain of, he would not have purposely provoked an invasion by Putin in order to engage in a proxy war.
Those are the salient points you totally ignore completely.
Robert DeLong I really don’t like spending time with your nonsense.
The drones would be the “more” Trump wanted after the jets, the drones would be in addition to the jets, among other things we could send.
The headline of the interview is “Trump says US needs to get off the sidelines in Ukraine’s fight for survival”
That “very 1st paragraph:” you mention are the words of the writer of the article you chose to believe, it is not Trump reversing what he said about sending jets just a minute before and kept verifying in the interview, the writer mislead you.
STUART: SO WHAT DO YOU DO NOW? YOU SAID YOU’D MAYBE DO MORE
THAN JUST SEND IN THE MIG JETS,
ALL RIGHT WHAT MORE?
TRUMP—WELL WHAT I WOULD DO IS I WOULD, WE WOULD, WE HAVE
TREMENDOUS MILITARY CAPABILITY AND WHAT WE CAN DO WITHOUT PLANE IS TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, WITHOUT 44-YEAR-OLD JETS, WHAT WE CAN DO IS ENORMOUS, AND WE SHOULD BE DOING IT AND WE SHOULD BE HELPING THEM TO SURVIVE AND THEY’RE DOING AN AMAZING JOB
(snip talk about oil etc)
STUART: WELL LET ME PRESS YOU AGAIN ON WHAT EXTRA MILITARY
HELP YOU WOULD GIVE TO THE UKRAINIANS.
YOU SAY YOU WANT TO DO MORE THAN JUST THE MIG JETS OR THE
JAVELINS.
WHAT MORE?
TRUMP—WELL I THINK THE DRONES ARE
JUST AS EFFECTIVE AS ANYTHING
NOW.
THEY MAKE DRONES TODAY, WE MAKE,
WE HAVE DRONES THAT ARE JUST AS
EFFECTIVE AS JUST ABOUT
ANYTHING IN THE AIR, ANYTHING
YOU CAN DO IN THE AIR AND YOU
CAN DO DRONES PLUS THEY GIVE
BACK TREMENDOUS AMOUNTS OF
INFORMATION AND THE INFORMATION
LEADS MISSILES RIGHT TO WHATEVER
THE HELL TARGET THEY ARE AND
THEREFORE, YOU’RE BEING NEUTRAL,
IT SO RIDICULOUS.
LOOK, STUART, WHEN HE GOES IN AND HE KILLS THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, ARE WE GOING TO JUST SIT BY AND WATCH?
The writer you trusted showed you 2 1/2 minutes of the interview that was 10 minutes long, if you would just read the portion of the transcript of that interview that I had already posted, which is from the SAME interview your source manipulated, you would see what Trump was saying.
The bottom line is that you really waste people’s time.
Well, that's your subjective opinion. I respect your right to believe that, though I disagree with it.
Now, back to the topic. I'll stipulate that it was his opinion back then shortly after Russia had invaded. He's been quiet except to say that a solution needs to happen to find a peaceful resolution. That hardly sounds like he continues to feel as he did back then, but I could be wrong. I will agree with him that if you are going to get involved in a conflict, then don't do it on a tepid basis. That is what loses conflicts not win them. But then also realize we will be throwing the world into its third world war, without question. I certainly would prefer to not go there, and I think I am far from being alone in that as well.
I still refuse to stand with providing aid to Ukraine. They are as corrupt as Russia, but more importantly Zelenskyy has entered into a Faustian agreement of evil with the Democrats, and even worse, the WEF & The One World Government/New World Order. I cannot, nor will I, side with evil.
Furthermore, I cannot support the saving of a foreign nation, while our leaders allow our nation to face an even larger invasion that has major, mostly negative, impacts upon our nation. I'm being generous in that there may be some positive impacts that I don't see. It's a benefit to reducing wages, which is a positive for those who hire people. At least at first, at any rate, because the downside for them is that their customer base becomes weakened.
Lastly, I am tired of the continuous piling of debt upon my children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren while their country is not only being taken from them but is further taking away the freedoms of people living in this country, as well as, worldwide.
Bottom line for me is, that I will never support this war that was indeed provoked because of the desire by the leadership of both the U.K. & the U.S. to engage in a proxy war. Since the leader of Ukraine agreed to place his country in the jeopardy it now finds itself involved in, I feel sorry for her citizens, but elections have consequences, and when you provide unfettered access to the neo-Nazis to run rough-shod over a portion of your citizenry, then you lose my support. For Germany it was Jews, for Ukraine it is Russians, for me there is no difference in the actions between Hitler & Zelenskyy.
I will continue to battle you tooth & nail against this immoral war, because both sides have been at fault. But beyond that I'm convinced beyond all doubt that like the rest of our military misadventures in the last 20 years, it will not be successful.
We do not have the money, and if BRICS is successful with dethroning the U.S. currency as the world's reserve, we will collapse.
Ukraine is neither a national security threat to the U.S. and most likely not one for Europe either. It most certainly is not worth the destruction of freedom, because that is what will happen, mark my words, when this nation falls.
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Sounds like another case where they'll keep the war going long enough to make some profits from it.
For which the government pays for it by simply printing money. Which begs the question - if they can print money to pay for everything then why do we need to pay taxes?
LOL, your post has nothing to do with the correction of your massive error corrected in post 44 and it has nothing to do with me.
The fact that you laugh only proves that evil within your heart. You’re nothing but a ignorant useful idiot. WWIII will be on all of you cheerleaders.
Who knows what goes on in your head.
You are nothing but a useful idiot, because you are not even aware of what went on in Ukraine. Instead all you do is blindly take in the spoon fed propaganda lies as being the truth. You haven’t a real brain cell in that empty head of yours, which means everyone who desires can see what is in your head. Absolutely nothing of value.
You are the troll. LOL
BTW, I am still waiting for you to tell me about Reagan that you say I know nothing about Reagan. You’re a complete fraud who can only make claims, but can’t back up a thing you say. Correction, you did offer up the V Corps and my lack of knowledge that Trump moved them to Poland. The only question is why he really moved them, and it isn’t what you claim.
Matter of fact, I think you are totally clueless as to what is happening in the world, and why it is happening. That’s how ignorant you really are.
“”you did offer up the V Corps and my lack of knowledge that Trump moved them to Poland.””
You forget correcting your complete inaccuracy and lack of knowledge on the Trump interview with Stuart Varney, about the jets and drones nukes and such.
I’m still not sure you comprehended the correction.
No, I didn't forget that, because you were all wrong on that as it was all BS. First off, just because Varney said he already agreed about the MIG planes, doesn't mean that Trump actually said he agreed with the MIG planes. For all we know Trump may have said he has no problem with Poland giving Ukraine their MIG planes. That is not agreeing that we give Ukraine jets & missiles. My first contact with you today of what Trump says now, negates your claim of Trump & jets to Ukraine, completely.
But like many things I have tried to educate you about, and you have totally rejected, even though it's well documented, you hold on to your ignorant take on. You lack real critical thinking skills.
All you operate on is, as I've said over & over, is propaganda lies. Those lies will lead the world into WWIII, and you will probably be excited of all the death & destruction that you will blame totally on Russia, because you are an ignorant person.
STUART: THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER WE SHOULD SEND JETS, MIG JETS TO UKRAINIAN AIR FORCE, WOULD YOU SEND IN THAT
KIND OF HELP?
TRUMP-WELL MAYBE EVEN MORE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU,
ALL RIGHT WHAT MORE?
TRUMP—WELL WHAT I WOULD DO IS I WOULD, WE WOULD, WE HAVE
TREMENDOUS MILITARY CAPABILITY
On Putin’s nuke threats.
TRUMP—WE HAVE THE GREATEST SUBMARINES IN THE WORLD, MOST POWERFUL MACHINES EVER BUILT, MOST POWERFUL AND THEY GOT BUILT UNDER ME. MOST POWERFUL MACHINES EVER BUILT AND NOBODY KNOWS WHERE THEY ARE AND
YOU SHOULD SAY LOOK , IF YOU MENTION THAT WORD, ONE MORE TIME, WE’RE GOING TO SEND THEM OVER AND WE’LL BE COASTING BACK AND FORTH UP AND DOWN YOUR COAST. YOU CAN’T LET THIS TRAGEDY CONTINUE. YOU CAN’T LET THESE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DIE. IT’S GOING TO BE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS AND MAYBE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE BY THE TIME IT ENDS.”
“You are the troll. LOL”
You forgot to reply from your 6thavenue account.
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