Posted on 01/21/2023 5:30:06 AM PST by owainG31
Yesterday I broke the current household record for war dialer phone scammer calls at 61, the previous record was Thanksgiving Day 2022 with 60. All of these calls are using forged caller IDs and basically unblockable because the numbers change every call. While I originally just ignored them, I went through the usual Lenny Bruce phases of coping, from talking to the callers (almost exclusively from India but with names like George, Ralph, Gladys and Candi) to pretending I myself was Indian or Chinese, to telling them I was going to give their call history to IBI. All that happened is they've recycled my number over and over again to the point I had to install a call sentry system and turn off all my ringers.
But now the game is different. I want to know why the phone companies aren't puting in a callerID validation system to stop all calls coming from a forged number. I could care less about phone-based advertisers starving. The insurance brokers who hired these ass clowns to sell upgrades to Medicare should be arrested for telecommunications fraud and castrated.
All the phone companies have to do is this: set up a verification process which blocks the incoming call until an encrypted cookie is sent back to the source number and returned to the destination number. The whole process takes maybe one nanosecond. Numbers which don't return the cookie are deemd to be fraudulent and the call is dropped.
But apparently the phone companies don't care what their account holders are being subjected to, and meanwhile the little monkeys running these operations, which have called me anywhere from 6am to 1030pm with repeated calls if I dare answer, are just happy as clams. They're even claiming their from the US Government.
My strongest possible suggestion is this: pass the law barring forged caller IDs, make the phone companies take action, and hunt down these insurance brokers and throw them in jail for perpetrating a denial fo service attack on telecomm infrastructure. I spend about $700 a month on combined services, cell, home and internet access, and now it's become more of an annoyance than an inconvenience.
We’re receiving new phishing scams at work every week, too.
We are in a zero trust scenario. Block all numbers until you know it is trusted. Then add it to your contacts list.
You must have a lot of other questions about the government, too.
For VoIP/SIP calls, it is up to the phone service provider due to new regulations which I beleive need to be in place by June of 2023 (the date keeps changing). Search for more info on Stir/Shaken. And while this regulation will not specically stop those calls, it should identify them in the caller ID as ‘spoofed’ or ‘spam’ or something similar.That's where a cheap solution lies. Should require phone companies to allow consumers to block VOIP and reseller numbers, but I guess the providers are too busy re-selling those numbers themselves.
Yep........
The biggest problem I have with nuisance callers is the number of robo-calls from my Medicare supplement carrier. I ignore those, but I have to clear the voice mail box periodically because they don't just call, they leave a robo-message.
I don’t give this much thought, because when I do think about it, it makes me hope for a total system crash.
The vast majority of telephone calls we receive (upwards of 90%) are spam.
The vast majority of mail we receive is unsolicited crap that goes directly into the garbage.
If you’ve ever managed an email system, you know the vast majority of messages are just spam. Last time I did, I think 95% of the incoming mail was rejected before the users ever got a chance to see it.
A good portion of the Internet is just distractions/misinformation/fluff made to induce clicks to show you advertising that you ignore.
Basically all of our communications infrastructure is a gigantic waste of time and resources, and it’s trending towards nothing but automated systems talking to other automated systems with nary an actual human involved in any of it, and little to any benefit to humans.
> My question is why do they keep calling when your number is
listed on the DO NOT CALL LIST? <
I once naively asked a scam caller that. He just laughed, and said “We don’t care about that list.”
My new technique is to talk to them in an obscure foreign language. It seems to work. I even had one scammer tell me “I can’t understand you. I’m taking you off our call sheet.”
My caller id has started showing some as “potential spam”. If that can be done, they can be blocked. About half of them yesterday sounded foreign.
It's a typical libertarian error to point out deliberate infliction of distress on the people as "incompetence".
The government is STILL arresting people who were present at the Capitol on 1/6/2021 using hundreds, perhaps thousands, of agents who continue to review videotape, motel registers, credit card statements (many of which are submitted to the FBI by the credit card companies), etc.
The government is very efficient when they want to be, and they are incompetent only when they have a good reason to be. It's called anarcho-tyranny.
You don't need a weak government. You need a strong government that acts for the people.
“Consider the federal “Do not Call” registry is a complete failure.”
It is a failure because it is on a number by number basis. If there is a phone bank with 100 numbers, if you request being put on a do not call list from that number, it should apply to the entire phone bank.
I am presently blocking all phone calls that come to me from Texas numbers because I once gave a donation to a PBA group. Apparently they sold my number and now I get on average two to three calls a day. I just let the phone ring and then add them to my blocked numbers list, which is now over 100.
“BTW, I’m getting a lot of calls selling extended car warranties”
Has Rachel from Card Member Services called you yet?
Stop answering the phone. It’s like feeding cats.
Well, I just received a Nigerian email. Let’s just say it appears I’ll never have to work again. So long suckas
we go thru and block the #’s, it works for awhile.
Also i do p/u sometimes to blow a whistle or scream into the phone.
I block all calls not in my contact list. It does take them to voicemail so if it is important they can leave a message. I find that spam calls rarely leave a message. By looking at my call history after doing this for about a year that now I only get a couple spam calls a day when before it was 40 or 50.
I understand that if you pick up the phone that you are put in a database as a number that answers and this will increase the number of calls you get.
Did you mean $70? $700 sounds outrageously high. Did a telemarketer talk you into that, or it comes with a free BMW?
My aunt has Dementia. No matter what they say, she responds as if they asked “Why did they take away your car?” 45 minutes of her monologue follows. She has no car, no credit cards, nothing. If they tell her to go get gift cards, she repeats the monologue and adds in feuds with deceased relatives
man i wish i could mark the MIL’s call as potential spam.
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