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To: ought-six
Do you mean the Minsk agreement that called for Russia to withdraw from eastern Ukraine, but it refused to do so? That one?

Russia withdrew their forces from Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts, as required by Clause 2 of Minsk 2 agreement. This is why Ukraine attacked them! Here's a map of Russian forces positioned around Ukraine in January 2022. Notice that Russian forces are in Russian territory, outside of the two eastern provinces.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/01/27/world/europe/russia-forces.html

47 posted on 01/17/2023 1:56:01 PM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

“Russia withdrew their forces from Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts, as required by Clause 2 of Minsk 2 agreement.”

No, it didn’t. It also didn’t pull out its heavy weaponry, as required. Hell, Russia even argued that it was not an involved party and thus was not required to abide by the Agreements!

Here is a summary of the Agreements, with various footnotes and references. Those especially are well worth reading.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_agreements

Bottom line: The Minsk Agreements were flawed from the get-go, and NO ONE fully complied with them, and pointed fingers as to why they didn’t.

The Minsk Agreements were not worth the paper they were written on, and everyone knew it. But that’s what happens when parties rush to get something done, JUST TO GET SOMETHING DONE.

The bottom line, Russia should have stayed the hell out of Ukraine’s internal issues, because Russia was NOT an impartial player, especially after it had invaded and illegally annexed Crimea BEFORE either of the Minsk agreements were even drafted.


58 posted on 01/17/2023 2:34:36 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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