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There’s A Reason Moving In Before Marriage Makes Divorce More Likely, But Barstool Can’t Figure It Out
The Federalist ^ | 01/09/2023 | Elle Purnell

Posted on 01/09/2023 9:17:23 AM PST by SeekAndFind

First comes love, then comes an indeterminate period of conveniently living together to decide whether your partner’s dishwasher-loading habits are a dealbreaker, then comes marriage.

Today a lot of young daters assume moving in together is a prerequisite for matrimonial success. But it actually hikes up a couple’s proclivity toward divorce compared to spouses who wed without first cohabitating — a statistic that shocked hosts Jordyn Woodruff and Alex Bennett of Barstool Sports’ “Mean Girl” podcast in Wednesday’s episode.

“Couples who live together before marrying have nearly an 80 percent higher divorce rate than those who do not,” Bennett noted incredulously.

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“Which is crazy because you’d think you’d be the opposite,” Woodruff responded. “I lived with my boyfriend of five years and we broke up because we knew we weren’t compatible because we lived together.”

“Because living together is the way you find out,” Bennett added, even though, as she noted, she and her husband didn’t move in together before marriage (mostly as a matter of coincidence).

“Of course the natural step would have been to move in together,” she continued. “You save on rent, I get to know how you do the dishes, we get to do all of these things beforehand, before we get married.”

For most young couples, that’s the prevailing mindset. Producer Alanna Vizzoni piped in to note that she didn’t know anyone who hadn’t lived together before tying the knot: “I feel like that’s just kind of how people do it now.”

Instead of leading to better marital outcomes, however, the cohabitation trend is making marriages less successful. Why?

Maybe it’s because the mentality that encourages moving in together also fosters an approach to relationships that is focused on self-fulfillment instead of mutually gratifying self-sacrifice and permanence — while stripping the dating-to-marriage process of its natural tendencies toward steadfast commitment.

The common mindset toward marriage on display in Bennett and Woodruff’s conversation asks: Does this person meet my needs? Does he make me feel happy? Those are questions easily answered by living together outside the sacred commitment of marriage. But they are the exact same questions that, as a rubric applied within marriage, often culminate in divorce as soon as one spouse is perceived to not sufficiently meet needs and inspire happiness.

That self-focused mindset is revealed in Woodruff’s theory about why the statistic might be true. “When you’re not living with someone you’re continuously keeping your own life, your own hobbies, your own things that fulfill you,” she suggested. “But when you live with someone, because I did this, your life becomes their life, and you forget to take care of your own life and your own needs.”

Woodruff is right about one thing: it’s a lot easier to be selfish when you don’t live with another person. Seeing the ability to “take care of your own life” as the top criterion for a healthy marriage is a recipe for failure.

If you enter a marriage with the ultimate goal of meeting your own desires, you’ll likely walk out as soon as those desires aren’t met. And since the practice of living together before marriage is typically a convenient means of testing out how well those wants are met, it simply indulges that mindset further.

But the primary function of marriage is not to make us “happier,” even though it does. Marriage is designed to glorify God by sanctifying us and creating families that reflect his intimate and unconditional love, in ways that also offer us joy and strengthen our communities.

That is a goal that can survive the annoyances of living with another imperfect person’s habits and quirks. It can survive seasons of heartbreaking loss and moments when “feelings” run dry, because marriage is an intentional commitment to sacrificial, unconditional love.

While it’s absolutely wise to thoughtfully evaluate a relationship through dating before making such a holy commitment, that doesn’t require testing out the sacred vulnerabilities of marriage with none of the promise of permanence. In fact, it is that very security of permanence that makes the vulnerabilities wonderful.

Later in the episode, Woodruff and Bennett ponder the reality that, when making the decision to marry, few people ever feel “100 percent” sure they’re making the right decision. For many, moving in together first feels like a way to make the marriage decision less “risky.” But that unhealthy risk aversion paralyzes us from finding joy in commitments that might close off other options.

“I don’t know if anyone will ever be 100 percent [sure,] because we’re always looking for the next best thing, like that’s in our genetics these days,” Woodruff notes.

Her diagnosis is accurate — and sad. The root of that risk aversion, and the “fear of missing out” that nourishes it, is usually selfishness. We don’t want to commit ourselves to anything (or anyone) without a guarantee that we’ll receive the greatest possible gratification in return, because we’ve been taught that self-love is the greatest love of all. That cautious instinct can be good to an extent; obviously, we shouldn’t continue in relationships that are abusive, unhealthy, or simply going nowhere.

But to approach relationships as means to the end of loving ourselves is to deny ourselves the joy of loving another person unconditionally, of giving and receiving each other fully. (Incidentally, it also makes the marriage as futile a pursuit as “self-love” is.) It cheats us of participating in the ultimate earthly replica of Christ’s love, and destines us to eventual dissatisfaction. It makes marriage more fearsome, since a marriage’s success suddenly depends on unpredictable feelings of satisfaction instead of an intentional, constant commitment to love.

Any real love requires giving yourself, and that’s a “risk” that terrifies disciples of the “Mean Girl” hosts’ self-love gospel. The irony is, it’s riskier (and less rewarding) to give time, trust, and emotional and physical intimacy to a person who is only bound to you, as you are to him, by your present satisfaction of his desires. The guard rails of marriage aren’t just safer — they’re ultimately far more liberating.


Elle Purnell is an assistant editor at The Federalist, and received her B.A. in government from Patrick Henry College with a minor in journalism.


TOPICS: Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: cohabitation; divorce; holyfolk; marriage
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To: z3n

I think that people who have moved in together decide to rescue their relationship that is not working by getting married and then when it does not improve their failing relationship decide to get a divorce...


41 posted on 01/09/2023 10:53:52 AM PST by PCPOET7 (`)
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To: G Larry

Lol! 34 years and counting and she still can’t load the dishwasher right!


42 posted on 01/09/2023 10:59:47 AM PST by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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To: alexander_busek

My son has found one


43 posted on 01/09/2023 11:00:07 AM PST by Chickensoup (Genocide is here. Leftist extremists are spearhheading the Genocide against conservatives. )
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To: SeekAndFind

People who believe in tradition behave in a traditional manner are less likely to divorce. Why would that surprise anyone?


44 posted on 01/09/2023 11:03:35 AM PST by katana
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To: z3n

Excellent


45 posted on 01/09/2023 11:03:55 AM PST by Guenevere (“If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?”)
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To: SeekAndFind

Because women marry men hoping to change them and men marry women hoping they will stay the same.


46 posted on 01/09/2023 11:05:12 AM PST by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: dsrtsage

“ single guy who has spent his entire life on airplanes just doesn’t care enough anymore”
Probably a good idea to not marry. You very likely could be a victim of AIDS.
Aviation
Induced
Divorce
Syndrome


47 posted on 01/09/2023 11:09:43 AM PST by 9422WMR (45 1. Lie, cheat, steal. It’s how the democRATS operate. )
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To: dsrtsage
I married for the first time at age 57.

The key is to find a mate with the same values (and preferably Faith).

48 posted on 01/09/2023 11:11:46 AM PST by G Larry ( "woke" means 'stupid enough to fall for the promotion of every human weakness into a virtue')
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To: SeekAndFind

Son #1 leased an apartment with fiancé almost two years before they got married. Her parents had decided that she was to take over ALL the chores and that her 3 teenage brothers (13, 15, and 17) were to have zero responsibilities. Basically, they made her Cinderella. She complained, they showed her the door. My son co-signed her apartment lease, paid for half, but continued to live with us until they got married, a two year wait, then he moved in.

Son #2 bought a house 6 months before he got married. His fiancé continued to live her parents until after the wedding. Because they lived close to his place of employment, he would often crash on their couch, but he did not share her bed until the honeymoon.

Son #1 probably did a bit of sampling pre-nuptials, but Son #2 was adamant about not doing so. Neither thought living with their future spouse before getting married was a good idea.


49 posted on 01/09/2023 11:16:07 AM PST by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: Crusher138

How are their respective marriages turning out?


50 posted on 01/09/2023 11:24:26 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: the OlLine Rebel
But not you, right?

Right. We have a rather strict division of labor.
51 posted on 01/09/2023 11:45:07 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth? (Luke 18:8))
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To: FamiliarFace

Just the 2 of us too. About 2/3s of the time we prep and cook together. Leftovers tend to be make your own plate.
Dishwasher died at beginning of lockdown so we eat watching Jeopardy (MST) and hand wash and dry dishes together during Wheel of Fortune. It is fun.


52 posted on 01/09/2023 11:49:40 AM PST by bravo whiskey (Annie Savoy : The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness. )
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To: SeekAndFind

“” a statistic that shocked hosts Jordyn Woodruff and Alex Bennett of Barstool Sports’ “Mean Girl” podcast in Wednesday’s episode.””

One reason life is so exhausting is that the statistics have been saying this for far more than 50 years, yet it never takes.

If media and education and entertainment didn’t keep saturating people with falshoods, America would be completely different.


53 posted on 01/09/2023 11:50:17 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: SeekAndFind

the pastor at a church I went to at one time recounted this story.

He said that in the 1990’s he’d marry people and they’d come back several years later for marriage counseling. Invariably the problem was that they had been sleeping together before marriage. As a result, there was not transition between not married and married. So the woman had no confidence in the permanence of their marriage or their husbands commitment to them. The women just didn’t feel married. Rather they felt more alone and vulnerable.

After too many episodes of this the pastor installed new rules over how he would do marriages. People, if they had been sleeping together had to spend a certain period celebate. (I’ve forgotten just how long.) Also, they had to go through marriage counseling.


54 posted on 01/09/2023 12:04:55 PM PST by ckilmer (q)
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To: SeekAndFind
Does he make me feel happy?

When it is all about me, your marriage is already on the road to ruin. When it is about genuine commitment and love for your marital partner, it just might work out.

Spoken as a guy married for 38 + years to a woman that I genuinely loved as she did me until heaven reclaimed her about two months ago.

55 posted on 01/09/2023 12:11:51 PM PST by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: bravo whiskey

Here in Indy it’s WOF first and Jeopardy second. That’s the same time as we sit down to eat, too. For leftovers, if there’s not enough for a whole other meal for both of us, we may use some as an appetizer, or sometimes we come up with entirely new dishes created from the leftovers. As an example, grilled (or baked) chicken leftovers can be tossed on a salad with sautéed corn and salad veggies of your choice. Throw in some sliced avocado, tomatoes, and Colby Jack cheese. Top with ranch dressing that’s been jazzed up with chipotle seasoning, and now the salad takes on a South of the border flare. Even more fun with tortilla strips or wedges.

After we use roast pork for dinner, we might use the extras to make Cuban sandwiches, something I love from youth.

We absolutely love leftovers, especially when they show up as something totally different a few days later. We try hard not to waste any food, especially these days when groceries cost an arm and a leg.


56 posted on 01/09/2023 12:17:00 PM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TP)
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To: SeekAndFind
How are their respective marriages turning out?

Son #1 has been married for 8 years. So far, so good. I have a beautiful granddaughter. My DIL is a stay at home mom.

Son #2 got married last October. He starts the Police Academy next week. We will see.

57 posted on 01/09/2023 12:17:06 PM PST by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: SeekAndFind

With marriage you are making a commitment, but with just living together you are admitting you aren’t really committed to making a marriage work and want to make sure you have an easy “out”.

Look, your spouse is going to piss you off at times. Plan ahead to just get over it and forgive them when they do. In sickness and in health, for richer or poorer, and even when she leaves off the top of the toothpaste and he leaves the toilet seat up.


58 posted on 01/09/2023 12:19:58 PM PST by CFW (old and retired)
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To: FamiliarFace

Our dishwasher broke last fall. I showed my 28 year-old son how to wash the dishes by hand.

After he finished washing them, he asked, “Is this how they did it in the Olden Days?”


59 posted on 01/09/2023 12:21:32 PM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: SeekAndFind
I married my girlfriend in 1972.

We are still married.

I'm beginning to suspect she may be The One.

60 posted on 01/09/2023 12:25:17 PM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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