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There’s A Reason Moving In Before Marriage Makes Divorce More Likely, But Barstool Can’t Figure It Out
The Federalist ^ | 01/09/2023 | Elle Purnell

Posted on 01/09/2023 9:17:23 AM PST by SeekAndFind

First comes love, then comes an indeterminate period of conveniently living together to decide whether your partner’s dishwasher-loading habits are a dealbreaker, then comes marriage.

Today a lot of young daters assume moving in together is a prerequisite for matrimonial success. But it actually hikes up a couple’s proclivity toward divorce compared to spouses who wed without first cohabitating — a statistic that shocked hosts Jordyn Woodruff and Alex Bennett of Barstool Sports’ “Mean Girl” podcast in Wednesday’s episode.

“Couples who live together before marrying have nearly an 80 percent higher divorce rate than those who do not,” Bennett noted incredulously.

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“Which is crazy because you’d think you’d be the opposite,” Woodruff responded. “I lived with my boyfriend of five years and we broke up because we knew we weren’t compatible because we lived together.”

“Because living together is the way you find out,” Bennett added, even though, as she noted, she and her husband didn’t move in together before marriage (mostly as a matter of coincidence).

“Of course the natural step would have been to move in together,” she continued. “You save on rent, I get to know how you do the dishes, we get to do all of these things beforehand, before we get married.”

For most young couples, that’s the prevailing mindset. Producer Alanna Vizzoni piped in to note that she didn’t know anyone who hadn’t lived together before tying the knot: “I feel like that’s just kind of how people do it now.”

Instead of leading to better marital outcomes, however, the cohabitation trend is making marriages less successful. Why?

Maybe it’s because the mentality that encourages moving in together also fosters an approach to relationships that is focused on self-fulfillment instead of mutually gratifying self-sacrifice and permanence — while stripping the dating-to-marriage process of its natural tendencies toward steadfast commitment.

The common mindset toward marriage on display in Bennett and Woodruff’s conversation asks: Does this person meet my needs? Does he make me feel happy? Those are questions easily answered by living together outside the sacred commitment of marriage. But they are the exact same questions that, as a rubric applied within marriage, often culminate in divorce as soon as one spouse is perceived to not sufficiently meet needs and inspire happiness.

That self-focused mindset is revealed in Woodruff’s theory about why the statistic might be true. “When you’re not living with someone you’re continuously keeping your own life, your own hobbies, your own things that fulfill you,” she suggested. “But when you live with someone, because I did this, your life becomes their life, and you forget to take care of your own life and your own needs.”

Woodruff is right about one thing: it’s a lot easier to be selfish when you don’t live with another person. Seeing the ability to “take care of your own life” as the top criterion for a healthy marriage is a recipe for failure.

If you enter a marriage with the ultimate goal of meeting your own desires, you’ll likely walk out as soon as those desires aren’t met. And since the practice of living together before marriage is typically a convenient means of testing out how well those wants are met, it simply indulges that mindset further.

But the primary function of marriage is not to make us “happier,” even though it does. Marriage is designed to glorify God by sanctifying us and creating families that reflect his intimate and unconditional love, in ways that also offer us joy and strengthen our communities.

That is a goal that can survive the annoyances of living with another imperfect person’s habits and quirks. It can survive seasons of heartbreaking loss and moments when “feelings” run dry, because marriage is an intentional commitment to sacrificial, unconditional love.

While it’s absolutely wise to thoughtfully evaluate a relationship through dating before making such a holy commitment, that doesn’t require testing out the sacred vulnerabilities of marriage with none of the promise of permanence. In fact, it is that very security of permanence that makes the vulnerabilities wonderful.

Later in the episode, Woodruff and Bennett ponder the reality that, when making the decision to marry, few people ever feel “100 percent” sure they’re making the right decision. For many, moving in together first feels like a way to make the marriage decision less “risky.” But that unhealthy risk aversion paralyzes us from finding joy in commitments that might close off other options.

“I don’t know if anyone will ever be 100 percent [sure,] because we’re always looking for the next best thing, like that’s in our genetics these days,” Woodruff notes.

Her diagnosis is accurate — and sad. The root of that risk aversion, and the “fear of missing out” that nourishes it, is usually selfishness. We don’t want to commit ourselves to anything (or anyone) without a guarantee that we’ll receive the greatest possible gratification in return, because we’ve been taught that self-love is the greatest love of all. That cautious instinct can be good to an extent; obviously, we shouldn’t continue in relationships that are abusive, unhealthy, or simply going nowhere.

But to approach relationships as means to the end of loving ourselves is to deny ourselves the joy of loving another person unconditionally, of giving and receiving each other fully. (Incidentally, it also makes the marriage as futile a pursuit as “self-love” is.) It cheats us of participating in the ultimate earthly replica of Christ’s love, and destines us to eventual dissatisfaction. It makes marriage more fearsome, since a marriage’s success suddenly depends on unpredictable feelings of satisfaction instead of an intentional, constant commitment to love.

Any real love requires giving yourself, and that’s a “risk” that terrifies disciples of the “Mean Girl” hosts’ self-love gospel. The irony is, it’s riskier (and less rewarding) to give time, trust, and emotional and physical intimacy to a person who is only bound to you, as you are to him, by your present satisfaction of his desires. The guard rails of marriage aren’t just safer — they’re ultimately far more liberating.


Elle Purnell is an assistant editor at The Federalist, and received her B.A. in government from Patrick Henry College with a minor in journalism.


TOPICS: Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: cohabitation; divorce; holyfolk; marriage
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1 posted on 01/09/2023 9:17:23 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

My wife and I agree, there is only ONE WAY to load a dishwasher!.....Alone.


2 posted on 01/09/2023 9:19:53 AM PST by G Larry ( "woke" means 'stupid enough to fall for the promotion of every human weakness into a virtue')
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To: SeekAndFind

TLDR

Here’s my short and concise answer.

Because the kinds of people who would not move in together before marriage have traditional morals and values. Those are the same kind of people who believe in making marriage work and making it healthy.

Plain and simple.


3 posted on 01/09/2023 9:20:36 AM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: z3n

This is me applauding what you wrote!


4 posted on 01/09/2023 9:23:15 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: z3n

Good answer.


5 posted on 01/09/2023 9:23:51 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Co-habitating is just practicing for divorce.


6 posted on 01/09/2023 9:24:26 AM PST by Tom Tetroxide
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To: SeekAndFind

When was the first marriage?


7 posted on 01/09/2023 9:24:51 AM PST by TexasGator (!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think arranged marriages may have been the norm for thousands of years. Of course, not likely today except for traditional cultures.


8 posted on 01/09/2023 9:25:24 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14/12 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15/12 - 1030am - Obama team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think the act of moving in together sets up a mindset that either one can end it, so there’s no real joining because each one has the mindset of being able to end it. They don’t have to have the level of commitment to make it work.


9 posted on 01/09/2023 9:26:23 AM PST by Jonty30 (THE URGE TO SAVE THE WORLD IS ALMOST ALWAYS AN URGE TO RULE IT)
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To: G Larry

I think that works for us, as well. One of us puts away the food, and the other does the dishes, including loading the dishwasher. We take turns in almost all aspects of the meal prep and cleanup, though I do almost all of the procuring of the foods. It hasn’t always been this way, but that’s because children were part of the equation. Now that it’s just the two of us, we do a lot of this together, and we have fun doing it.


10 posted on 01/09/2023 9:27:53 AM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TP)
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To: z3n
Agree 100%

IMHO, one side-effect of the left pushing the gay and transgender thing is it further normalize heterosexual hedonism.

We've already gone from "Hey, we're living together. At least I'm not treating her like a one night stand." to

"At least my one night stands aren't treating my female friends like sex objects, the one night stands know what they're getting into." to

"Friends with benefits is normal. At least it's not like gay stuff."

Even if us Christians win the argument and society realizes the gay and transgender thing is dumb, the Dims' push for very crazy sex practices has normalized just sorta crazy sex practices.

11 posted on 01/09/2023 9:32:48 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: G Larry

** load a dishwasher**

My wife rarely lets dishes sit long enough to get crusty. We both rinse dishes as soon as we’re done eating off them. She quickly washes them (her brothers call her ‘the White tornado’ after her maiden name). She hates listening to a dishwasher and is certain she uses much less water. One came with this house, has it’s own breaker, which has been off for a long time.


12 posted on 01/09/2023 9:32:49 AM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: z3n

**have traditional morals and values**

Amen!! My wife and I waited until marriage, and are so glad we did! (wedding night was a clumsy learning experience, lol)


13 posted on 01/09/2023 9:38:13 AM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: SeekAndFind

The reason for the statistical divide has to do with the character of the domestic players.


14 posted on 01/09/2023 9:39:03 AM PST by lurk (u)
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To: z3n

“Those are the same kind of people who believe in making marriage work and making it healthy.”

Yep...and that can be and I’d hard work.

Which is why I think there are so many divorces.....one or both parties refuse to put in the work necessary.


15 posted on 01/09/2023 9:39:24 AM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: Zuriel

Our dishwasher is a very quiet newer model (LG 2014). We use the energy saver quick wash, and rinse the dishes before food gets stuck on it. It’s basically a very nice sterilizer though.

I also handwash a lot of things, because the DW just discolors so many items after a ton of uses. I have a lot of retro items in my kitchen because I think they were just made better back in the 30’s, 40’s, 50’s, and 60’s.

I do not put pots or prep knives in the DW ever.


16 posted on 01/09/2023 9:40:26 AM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TP)
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To: SeekAndFind
Dating without sex is the sure way to know. Without the short term feel good chemicals to cloud the mind from having sex, you will see the person as they are.
17 posted on 01/09/2023 9:41:47 AM PST by dragonblustar ( Cobalt Red, Green Energy Policies, WEF and the enslavement of humanity.)
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To: Zuriel
[...] her brothers call her ‘the White tornado’ after her maiden name [...]

Miss Ajax?

Regards,

18 posted on 01/09/2023 9:43:09 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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I doubt I could live with anyone at this point. Mid fifties and I have lived alone my entire life. I have nice properties but they are more investments for retirement and where I sleep from time to time though they have the potential to be a special homey home for someone someday, but old single guy who has spent his entire life on airplanes just doesn’t care enough anymore. Though, I rebuilt my kitchen in my current abode from scratch and it is beyond a dream kitchen, because I do enjoy the hell out of cooking.


19 posted on 01/09/2023 9:43:47 AM PST by dsrtsage ( Complexity is just simple lacking imagination)
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I doubt I could live with anyone at this point. Mid fifties and I have lived alone my entire life.

Sounds like what you need is a nice, traditional, submissive "girl-next-door" type.

Got a Time Machine? The 1950s were full of them!

Regards,

20 posted on 01/09/2023 9:47:44 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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