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To: USA-FRANCE; Jan_Sobieski; lodi90; Boogieman; Mariner; McGruff; Bullish; SoConPubbie; PGR88
Ask yourself why NATO isn't just going in and taking out Russia. I mean if Ukraine is winning as you say they are, then wouldn't this whole conflict be over in a matter of weeks if all of NATO were to act in unison.

BTW, if Ukraine had to stand alone against Russia, it would have been over long ago. They have only been able to fight back due to the billions the U.S. has provided, along with most of the fighting material. Even though this is a European problem, Europe has, as always, placed the burden upon the U.S. and have been wishy-washy in support of this conflict. But after Afghanistan, I can understand your reluctance to trust the U.S.

If Russia is retreating, retreating, retreating, is weak, too drunk, no discipline or organization, under-equipped, untrained, with bad leadership, why are they placing the entire burden upon Ukraine? Ukraine may have good fighters, I think that has been the case, and well known, for decades, but why aren't the rest of the European men on the front lines with them?

However, that doesn't change the fact that Russia is not what you describe. It is neither the powerhouse you say, nor is it the weakling you also say. But they are a nuclear power. Is anyone even afraid of them? They sure like to conjure up fear, making you see the Soviet Union, not Russia. Russia is not the Soviet Union, but that is the lie you are being fed.

You all kind of contradict yourselves at every turn. You claim that Russia is aggressive, while saying Russia is weak in the same breath. Yet that inconsistency escapes you all.

It's as if you don't even know what you are saying and you will say anything. But then again, that is why propaganda works so well upon you all.

You talk BS out of one side of your mouth, but the facts really are not supportive of what you imply. Do you even believe what you are saying?

Are you the product of new math where the answer is whatever you say it is?

Reality has a way of biting you where the sun don't shine. Better learn critical thinking skills while you are learning real math skills as well.

31 posted on 01/04/2023 7:32:54 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

You live in a fantasy world and make strawman arguments. Have you smelled the stink of a Russian squat toilet? I have. Been to a KGB torture museum? I have. Russia is weak and fake. Look who they are invading. Moldova. Georgia. Ukraine. No NATO countries, obviously. Now why would that be? Look who they are allying with. Iran. North Korea. Superpower? Hardly. LOL. Case closed.


34 posted on 01/05/2023 6:16:00 AM PST by lodi90
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To: Robert DeLong

“Ask yourself why NATO isn’t just going in and taking out Russia. I mean if Ukraine is winning as you say they are, then wouldn’t this whole conflict be over in a matter of weeks if all of NATO were to act in unison.”

NATO is a defensive alliance that has never had any interest in conquest. But anyone who doesn’t know that is either a submoron or a propagandist.


35 posted on 01/05/2023 7:24:18 AM PST by Boogieman
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