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I’m glad there are people like this to report info that bucks the established official orthodoxy.
1 posted on 01/02/2023 11:41:43 AM PST by fwdude
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As long as they feel good about themselves it doesn’t matter how stupid they are


2 posted on 01/02/2023 11:43:53 AM PST by NWFree (Somebody has to say it 🤪)
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I know we’re supposed to be enthralled about electric cars for the future and all of that.

But can’t we also say ,that electric car technology just isn’t there yet ,,for us to have a massive replacement of existing internal combustion engine vehicles?

And can’t we also say that people such as Gavin Newsom in California are foolish, to set an arbitrary deadline of the Year 2035 to ban the sale of internal combustion vehicles?


3 posted on 01/02/2023 11:45:34 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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Libtard Gov. Inslee made it that in (2030-35?) that only electric cars will be sold in Washington. I’m was hoping for some outrage over it but I guess when the time actually gets closer, people might protest this. I can’t imagine how the low income folks are going to be able to afford these vehicles let alone be able to charge them.


4 posted on 01/02/2023 11:48:07 AM PST by dragonblustar ( Cobalt Red, Green Energy Policies, WEF and the enslavement of humanity.)
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Leftwing BI speaking against EVs, Tesla specifically... I wonder why.


5 posted on 01/02/2023 11:48:07 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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Batteries do not like cold weather.

Another point. Here in Northern California roadways (even freeways) flooded rapidly trapping many motorist. Now a internal combustion engine can drive through some water, but what happens if a electric vehicle ends up on a flooded road?

Also, what happens when you attempt to drive over a pass in a snow storm? Are you going to make it? What happens when the batteries “die” and you are in the middle of a blizzard?

Electric vehicles may have a place (like a golf course or a second vehicle for short trips) but as a “bug out” vehicle not so much.


8 posted on 01/02/2023 11:51:39 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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“so they rented one from Hertz for a trip from Orlando, Florida, to Wichita, Kansas.”

Did they seriously not to expect to encounter major problems with this decision?


10 posted on 01/02/2023 11:52:35 AM PST by MAGA2017
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But they are savin da Erf!....................


11 posted on 01/02/2023 11:52:42 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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The poor performance of chemical batteries in cold weather is a fundamental limitation of the technology.

Super capacitors fare better but shorting out a super capacitor with enough stored energy to transport a two ton road vehicle for 400 miles in a crash is going to be a very energetic event.

12 posted on 01/02/2023 11:53:59 AM PST by rdcbn1
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Rented from Hertz..

That’s the co. that has had renters falsely arrested for theft of their vehicles, right?

The brother and sister were lucky they just had to stop to charge the vehicle and not face false charges from Hertz..


13 posted on 01/02/2023 11:56:17 AM PST by delchiante
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All of the bad stories about Tesla seem to have come after Elon Musk bought Twitter and exposed the left wing government censorship. Is it a coincidence?


14 posted on 01/02/2023 11:57:26 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Oh this story must be propaganda. There are some here at FR that refuse to believe that electric cars are just plain stupid


15 posted on 01/02/2023 11:58:50 AM PST by Nifster (OI see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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The ruling elite isn’t going to be in EVs. They will be in chauffeur-driven gas cars, and we will be paying their way. As for the poor, we will be paying for their transportation too.


18 posted on 01/02/2023 12:01:00 PM PST by I want the USA back (News media not worth camel spit. My pronouns: Haha, heehee, hoho. )
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"A brother and sister say they had to stop 6 times in one day to charge their rented Tesla in cold weather after the battery drained quickly"

Guessing 20 minutes for each charge, that's 2 hours to charge, probably waiting in line too.

Additionally, it is being claimed that EV lithium batteries take longer to charge when they are cold.

EV CHARGING IN COLD TEMPERATURES COULD POSE CHALLENGES FOR DRIVERS (non-FR; 7.30.2018)

EV not for me.

19 posted on 01/02/2023 12:01:57 PM PST by Amendment10
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This is one of my favorite images these days. A gasoline generator in the Tesla. I suppose one could describe it as converting your EV to a gasoline powered auto.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Honda+generator+to+charge+EV&client=ms-android-americamovil-us-revc&prmd=sivn&sxsrf=ALiCzsZo03HiARzyMwab5jWd1ktu_iAsuw:1672688414214&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjK0f710an8AhWAomoFHeuvBioQ_AUoAnoECAcQAg&biw=432&bih=814&dpr=2.5#imgrc=wxgIMa0wkYP2mM&imgdii=oAbHKlHYqredQM


20 posted on 01/02/2023 12:03:09 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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E85 is $1.99 gallon here today


21 posted on 01/02/2023 12:09:23 PM PST by NWFree (Somebody has to say it 🤪)
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I thought everyone knew by now to not use heat in the winter or AC in the summer with a plug in electric car. Use heat or AC only on cars powered by hydrocarbons, not coal.


22 posted on 01/02/2023 12:09:44 PM PST by PAR35
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Virtually all new car ads you see on TV are for EVs! Virtually all of the ads admit that the maximum range per charge is 300+ miles. That means the maximum range per charge is less than 400+ miles which is what my current polluter gets, so it comes down to charge time versus pump time. For my annual 1500 mile trip to and from Florida pump time wins hands down. When battery range improves to 600+ miles I’ll reconsider — but don’t count on it.


28 posted on 01/02/2023 12:15:55 PM PST by immadashell (Save Innocent Lives: Ban Gun Free Zones)
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Twitter may save the day for all of us, but I worry because Elon’s EV’s aren’t gonna’ make it long term and pay the way.

Word will spread of cold weather issues, evacuation disasters waiting to happen, infrastructure inadequacies, scarce materials, and repair/replacement costs, to name a few issues.

Unless Musk is cooking up another energy source, I can’t see it lasting.


31 posted on 01/02/2023 12:21:24 PM PST by chiller (Davey Crockett said: "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead'. I'll go ahead.)
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They were asking for it when they rented a Tesla to drive to Kansas in the middle of the Winter. It’s a fair weather car. I’d rather have a hybrid than an EV.


33 posted on 01/02/2023 12:30:54 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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Why is this news?


35 posted on 01/02/2023 12:32:58 PM PST by cmj328 (We live here.)
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