Human ancestors may have sailed across the Aegean Sea

Phys dot org ^ | December 21, 2022 | Bob Yirka

[SunkenCiv]

Sidebars:

• Age constraints for the Trachilos footprints from Crete [10/12/2021]
• Neandertals, Stone Age people may have voyaged the Mediterranean [05/05/2018]
• Controversial footprint discovery suggests human-like creatures may have roamed Crete [09/01/2017]
• The Discovery that Revealed Ancient Humans Navigated the Seas 130,000 Years Ago [2013] [07/15/2016]
• Ancient Mariners: Did Neanderthals Sail to Mediterranean? [11/24/2012]
• Anthropologist suggests Mediterranean islands inhabited much earlier than thought [11/16/2012]
• Neanderthals were ancient mariners [03/02/2012]
• Cretan tools point to 130,000-year-old sea travel [01/03/2011]
• On Crete, New Evidence of Very Ancient Mariners [02/17/2010]
• Ancient hominids may have been seafarers [01/14/2010]
• 'Cyclops' - Like Remains Found On Crete [02/01/2003]

[SunkenCiv]

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by Jane Messer, The Conversation
https://phys.org/news/2022-12-earliest-humans-swam-years-privileged.html

30 incredible sunken wrecks from WWI and WWII
By Tom Metcalfe published 3 days ago
https://www.livescience.com/world-war-i-ii-sunken-wrecks-photos

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BY BRENDAN RASCIUS
DECEMBER 28, 2022 2:40 PM
Read more at: https://www.heraldonline.com/news/nation-world/world/article270506482.html

‘Hallowed space’: Divers pull 275 artifacts from 2022 excavation of Franklin ship
By Bob Weber
The Canadian Press
Sun., Dec. 18, 2022
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2022/12/18/hallowed-space-divers-pull-275-artifacts-from-2022-excavation-of-franklin-ship.html

[AlmaKing]

Phys.org is overrun with climate change hysteria.

[SunkenCiv]

The other GGG topics added since the previous digest ping, chrono sort:

• Birds in Ancient Egyptian Paintings Show Artists May Have Twisted The Truth [12/30/2022]
• These New Animal Species Have Been Discovered -- or Rediscovered -- in 2022 [12/30/2022]
• Comet set to pass by Earth for the first time since Neanderthals existed 50,000 years ago is revealed in a new image [12/30/2022]
• The White Ship [12/29/2022]
• Of course: all the great women in history were actually men [12/28/2022]
• Author of 'Little Women' May Have Been Transgender, New York Times Article Claims [12/28/2022]
• c. 560 B.C.E.: Aesop, fabulist [12/28/2022]
• Disease-riddled skeletons suggest leprosy and smallpox ravaged medieval German village [12/27/2022]
• Rare Dinosaur Fossil Found With Perfectly Preserved Final Meal Inside [12/27/2022]
• The World's Oldest Animations Stretch All The Way Back to Cave Times [12/27/2022]
• Little Women author Louisa May Alcott 'may have been transgender or non-binary' and her 1868 book contains 'proof', New York Times article claims [12/27/2022]
• Surviving Winter in the Middle Ages [12/25/2022]
• Conjunctions, the Star of Bethlehem and Astronomy [12/24/2020]

[minnesota_bound]

They sailed and had many adventures

[mylife]

Is Homer aware of this?

[SunkenCiv]

All the time with his Wine-dark sea, obviously he was a boozer.

[mylife]

Odyssey

[mylife]

:)

[SunkenCiv]

Odyssey much odder than we all thought!

[SunkenCiv]

upcoming topics:

https://nordjyskemuseer.dk/vikingehal-fra-harald-blaatands-tid-dukket-op-ved-hune/
https://www.heritagedaily.com/2022/12/giant-hall-from-viking-harald-bluetooths-reign-discovered/145644
https://www.insidehook.com/daily_brief/history/archaeologists-discover-ancient-projectiles-idaho
https://www.heritagedaily.com/2022/12/archaeologists-to-excavate-the-ancient-pool-of-siloam/145668
https://phys.org/news/2022-12-hunter-gatherer-social-pottery-making-wide.html
https://phys.org/news/2022-12-linking-soot-antarctic-ice-exclusively.html
https://www.nature.com/articles/s42003-022-04354-0

[mylife]

On to the theory of Thira...

[SunkenCiv]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD9qc44oMqU

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talos

https://thefutureoftheforce.com/2021/03/03/new-talos-statue-from-jason-and-the-argonauts-revealed/

[CFW]

And then again, they may have not. We can play “may haves” all day and night, but we just do not really know how and when they traveled. Artifacts may have ended up in different areas due to flooding or the changing of the tides and not by traveling people. We shouldn’t take a hypotheses and make it into absolutes. Researchers will often start with a “maybe” and soon people have dropped that part and changed it into a “they definitely did this” narrative. That’s how bits of “known” history is often found to be wrong. Plus, this entire premise is racist! (Or, at least it will be found to be so by the end of next week).

(I slept for only 3 hours and woke up and can’t get back to sleep so I’m feeling a bit bitchy here at 2:00 a.m.).

[Larry Lucido]

The cruise industry was still primitive. It was normal to lose 30 or 40 on a cruise. If the shipwrecks didn't get you, the buffet did.

[DesertRhino]

80-100 miles across, plenty of islands. Very possible indeed.

[algore]

One if by air, or two if by sea

https://en.aegeanair.com/

[desertsolitaire]

Thank you for your take on this.
No apologies needed for insommnia.
Do androids dream of electric sheep?
Happy New Years to you! 😊

[Hillarys Gate Cult]

Like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt2DnqP3IaM

[SunkenCiv]

There’s nothin’ there.

The Kos volcano:
https://volcano.si.edu/volcano.cfm?vn=212805