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1 posted on 12/30/2022 3:03:53 PM PST by grundle
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To: grundle

No, Bill, you own this one.


2 posted on 12/30/2022 3:05:29 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: grundle

If they were opposites they wouldn’t all be Democrats.


3 posted on 12/30/2022 3:05:31 PM PST by Thilly Thailor
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Nope- they are both mental disorders


4 posted on 12/30/2022 3:11:13 PM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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Liberalism is a gateway drug into wokeness. If you follow it to its logical conclusion, you will end up in Wokeville, which is a stop 3/4 of the way to Marx City.


6 posted on 12/30/2022 3:13:17 PM PST by rbg81
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Bill needs a jockstrap for his nose.


7 posted on 12/30/2022 3:13:59 PM PST by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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Well, there’s liberal and then there’s Liberal. Liberals, in the latter sense, are totalitarian/authoritarian and Woke is right in their wheelhouse.


9 posted on 12/30/2022 3:16:22 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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liberalism embodies many things I don’t care for, but if Maher’s variant of liberalism fully embraces the Constitution, then he may be onto something. Wokism is antithetical to the liberties the Constitution affords us,


10 posted on 12/30/2022 3:16:31 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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The left stole and perverted the meaning of liberal. That was the ideology of the Founding Fathers, now known as Conservatism. Modern “liberalism” is fascist, totalitarian, Marxist/Stalinist, statist, intolerant, anti-God, anti-freedom, anti-science, degenerate, “woke.”


11 posted on 12/30/2022 3:18:10 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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If he means liberal in the ***classical*** way, yes.

There once was a time where the agenda of the liberal was to promote maximum liberty, for the broadest amount of people possible.

Today, it’s folks that under the label of liberal are the biggest culprits when it comes to censorship, centralization of power, coercive measures to play along with their games, usurping the bill of rights thereby stripping the individual and states of their constitutional powers, choosing the economic winners and losers via taxes/subsidies/regulations, carving up the population by demographics and bestowing special rights and entitlements only to a certain group...

The meaning of some words change with time.


12 posted on 12/30/2022 3:23:44 PM PST by Red6
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Maybe opposite in theory, but often identical in practice.


13 posted on 12/30/2022 3:24:16 PM PST by lee martell
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Hmmm. Liberal are not in favor of liberty. Quite the opposite. Woke is fascism. And that ass hat is all in favor of hating the opposition and repressing it.


14 posted on 12/30/2022 3:24:58 PM PST by Kaiser8408a (z)
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The liberals are cheerleaders without scruples or a plan.

The woke are neither stable, or rational.


18 posted on 12/30/2022 3:48:26 PM PST by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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Shaddap Bill, you spawned Wokeism.....wallow in it fool.


19 posted on 12/30/2022 3:53:51 PM PST by vespa300
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A classical liberal bears little or no resemblance to today’s democrat.


22 posted on 12/30/2022 3:56:33 PM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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No they aren’t Bill. I know wokesters must be hard to own, but they sure aren’t conservatives.


25 posted on 12/30/2022 4:05:05 PM PST by dforest
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There's nothing liberal about what is typically called a liberal in the U.S. today. They're totalitarian statists, pretty much the exact opposite of classical liberal thinkers like John Locke and Adam Smith. Today's liberals have much more in common with Joseph Stalin than any of the real liberals of the past. That's why I don't like to refer to them as liberals, I normally use the word leftist in my posts because to call them a liberal is to succumb to their co-opting of a positive word in order to mask their true selves.

A classical liberal believes in things like civil liberties, the rule of law, economic freedom, protection of private property rights, freedom of religion, expression, and of the press. All of these are actively suppressed by today's democrats whenever they don't align with their desired outcomes, suppression that's becoming more and more egregious as democrats consolidate their power. Even the worst of the worst would never have dared in the past to release their political rival president's tax returns, you respected the office if not the man and there are things you just don't do for petty vindictiveness. Likewise the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story by the press/twitter/facebook, etc. That's something that happens in banana republics, not supposedly the freest country on the planet.

27 posted on 12/30/2022 4:21:08 PM PST by GaryCrow
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They are twin sisters, to whom Maher gave birth.


28 posted on 12/30/2022 4:25:41 PM PST by lurk (u)
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Yeah Bill...that’s the ticket.


29 posted on 12/30/2022 4:26:33 PM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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No sir


30 posted on 12/30/2022 4:30:21 PM PST by albie
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Bill needs a new dictionary or is just plain stupid.


31 posted on 12/30/2022 4:35:43 PM PST by chopperk
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