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What we know now: The CIA and FBI have been corrupt for seventy years
American Thinker ^ | 30 Dec, 2022 | Patricia McCarthy

Posted on 12/30/2022 11:05:27 AM PST by MtnClimber

The recently released JFK assassination documents paint a grim picture.

On December 26, Lew Rockwell wrote a column about Tucker Carlson's December 15 program in which he discussed the most recent batch of documents that relate to the JFK assassination. Some are still withheld by the State Department. Why? Carlson said he had spoken to someone familiar with the remaining documents, who told him unequivocally that the CIA was indeed involved with the killing of Kennedy. We all know the basics — that within forty-eight hours of the assassination, Jack Ruby had killed Lee Harvey Oswald on camera. Ruby himself died shortly thereafter. We were told that Oswald was the lone assassin despite volumes of evidence that showed that that could not have been true.

A week after the assassination, Lyndon Johnson chose thirteen men to "investigate" the crime. They were called the Warren Commission after Chief Justice Earl Warren. Who were these men? One of them was Allen Dulles, a former director of the CIA, who had been fired by Kennedy two years earlier after the Bay of Pigs fiasco. It was Dulles who had founded MK-ULTRA, a top-secret CIA project in which the agency conducted hundreds of clandestine experiments — sometimes on unwitting U.S. citizens — to assess the potential use of LSD and other drugs for mind control, information-gathering, and psychological torture. Though Project MK-ULTRA lasted from 1953 until about 1973, details of the illicit program didn't become public until 1975, during a congressional investigation into widespread illegal CIA activities within the United States and around the world.

Also on the commission was Richard Helms. Helms was the official liaison to the CIA and soon to become its director. Neither of these men ever told the others on the Commission that they ran MK-ULTRA

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Society
KEYWORDS: cia; coverup; deepstate; fbi; jfk
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To: DugwayDuke

valuable time

/\

How could your time be valuable if your not getting paid to post ?

/-)

Again you posit allen duke smelling b.s. elusive answers instead of just plainly saying

” I am not allen duke “.

Just say that

and I’ll be satisfied.


81 posted on 12/31/2022 10:11:10 AM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: cuz1961

cuz1961 wrote: “How could your time be valuable if your not getting paid to post ?”

why do you think those who post material that you find disagreeable, must be posting because they are being paid?

And who is Allen Duke? I have never heard of the man?


82 posted on 12/31/2022 10:26:11 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

And who is Allen Duke?
/\

\-)

He’s the guy you won’t plainly deny you are.

The words “ I am not allen duke” isn’t hard, so why do you avoid just saying that ?

He’s an evasive weasel wording fact checker .

Just
Like
You

I’ve told you who he is many times now, the one you keep claiming you don’t know he is despite my having told you multiple times.

He parrots media narratives endlessly

Just
Like
You


83 posted on 12/31/2022 11:18:30 AM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: cuz1961

cuz1961 wrote: “He’s the guy you won’t plainly deny you are.”

What do you have against fact checkers besides the fact that they keep coming up with facts that disprove your favorite theories?


84 posted on 12/31/2022 11:56:56 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: Nifster

Bron 11/9/43 “as I remember”.
Entered Wheaton College 1961.
I did not do a “FOIA” ... which to my understanding, did not exist by that acronym in the 60’s. Many thousans of file “envlelopes” and their contents were stored in a “storage room” on Ft Carson, Colo. I was a company cler/personnel clerk for a couple weeks at Ft Carson before going to Vietnam where I was a company clerk.

I had expressed my interest to see those files to a casual acquaintance friend who was assigned there. He invited me in. At that time there was no PII. He and I broke no law. His superior sergeant knew I was there.

My file was between 3 and 4 inches of paper. I did not read every word. I flipped through the pages, mostly looking at the city and progression of dates.

Of course, I had this file because, at pre-induction, and repeated inductions since then, I had trutfully answered that I had attended meetings of groups on their list... both segregationist groups and communist groups. The segregationist groups Nov-Dec before that pre-induction and communist groups, John Birch Society, etc over several years in Chicagoland....many “student” groups.

Some Americans live very isolated lives. Others don’t. Just before hitchhiking across the country (Chicago-Mississippi-Tx-CA-WA and back to Chicago) I had worked several Chicago Precincts for Goldwater. In those precincts I tripled the vote of Nixon and doubled the vote of Ike. Outside those precincts I convinced about a dozen on the far left to vote for Goldwater because he would bring the revolution closer.

I was out of touch. My birthday was just after election day. I turned 21. I had not even been old enough to vote. I chose to hitchhike across the country and get in touch with at least a few people. I chose Mississippi for obvious reasons. I had had prior contact with Ben Carson type football players from northern Mississippi. I went there first and then worked my way south with a lot of time in Hatiesburg as well as the Brookhaven area.... and sleeping in SNC crash houses in between.

I learned a lot of people are not like me.


85 posted on 12/31/2022 12:38:20 PM PST by spintreebob (ki .)
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To: Red Badger

bingo!


86 posted on 12/31/2022 12:51:15 PM PST by The Mayor (“Love the Lord your God,” and “Love your neighbor as yourself” (Matthew 22:37–39))
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To: DugwayDuke

More evasion.

Typical

Even Allen duke (ish/-)


87 posted on 12/31/2022 1:00:23 PM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: cuz1961

cuz1961 wrote: “More evasion.”

Once again, what do you have against fact checkers?


88 posted on 12/31/2022 1:39:52 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

Once again

Evasion.

It won’t kill you to say

” I am not allen duke “

Will it ?

Why do you keep evading it ?

Why do you constantly change the subject.?

Hmmmm ?

/-)


89 posted on 12/31/2022 2:28:47 PM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: DugwayDuke

LOL. So 3 people have never kept anything secret??

The government censoring Twitter posts was a ‘conspiracy theory’ until last week.

Almost everything you say is idiotic. It’s amazing.


90 posted on 12/31/2022 4:03:04 PM PST by servantoftheservant
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To: spintreebob

You saw your army file


91 posted on 12/31/2022 5:07:56 PM PST by Nifster (OI see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: servantoftheservant

servantoftheservant wrote: “The government censoring Twitter posts was a ‘conspiracy theory’ until last week.”

The fact that the government was colluding with Twitter was a pretty well known secret. The twitter files only fill in the gaps and provided additional proof.


92 posted on 01/01/2023 6:25:20 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

Right. It’s also well known that the government story of the Oswald assassination of Kennedy doesn’t fit the facts.

Spectacular cognitive dissonance you’ve got there.


93 posted on 01/01/2023 9:59:13 AM PST by servantoftheservant
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To: servantoftheservant

servantoftheservant wrote: “Right. It’s also well known that the government story of the Oswald assassination of Kennedy doesn’t fit the facts. Spectacular cognitive dissonance you’ve got there.”

Cognitive dissonance stems from believing the conspiracy theories and then try to reconcile those theories with all of the facts, not just those the theorists have choosen to believe.


94 posted on 01/01/2023 10:07:30 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

Well said!


95 posted on 01/01/2023 10:11:12 AM PST by Reily
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To: MtnClimber

ping


96 posted on 01/01/2023 2:10:16 PM PST by WhattheDickens? (Funny, I didn’t think this was 1984…)
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To: DugwayDuke

You don’t have to have any competing theory to know the government story is bullshit.


97 posted on 01/01/2023 4:58:26 PM PST by servantoftheservant
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To: DugwayDuke
"You’re overly paranoid if you think the FBI trolls this site. "

and you're incredibly naïve if you think they don't

Or one of them...

98 posted on 01/01/2023 5:36:03 PM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare its ? And the ambassador to Ukraineelf)
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To: MtnClimber

It is my assumption that “of course” multiple gov agencies monitor this site. Most of that is automated. The automation stores data and indexes it by certain key words. A new term becomes popular and it probably takes them a couple years to put that new word on the list of words to index. By that time, the word is not longer cool and has been replaced by a new word not yet on the list.

Gov agencies move very slowly, bureaucratically.

Also they do not get sarcasm or any figure of speech, especially if not a figure of speech used by the swamp.


99 posted on 01/01/2023 6:04:10 PM PST by spintreebob (ki .)
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To: servantoftheservant

servantoftheservant wrote: “You don’t have to have any competing theory to know the government story is bullshit.”

Unless you can produce a credible competing theory, your position is bullshit.


100 posted on 01/02/2023 5:15:25 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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