Posted on 12/27/2022 6:50:17 AM PST by Red Badger
Mariah Carey’s co-collaborator on “All I Want For Christmas,” Walter Afanasieff, fired off about the iconic star on the “Hot Takes & Deep Dives with Jess Rothschild” podcast, claiming she lacks musical skill.
Afanasieff alleges Carey took full credit for the internationally successful song and fought back by stating he co-created the song and was largely responsible for its success. He criticized Carey by alleging she wasn’t as talented as fans may have thought. “She doesn’t play anything, she doesn’t play keyboard or piano. She doesn’t understand music, she doesn’t know chord changes and music theory or anything like that,” Afanasieff said during the podcast.
Afanasieff told fans the star simply didn’t possess the skill to create the music that he says she claims she was solely responsible for.
Carey refuted the allegations and came back with evidence to prove her point.
She said she wrote the song and posted an old video of herself declaring that fact during a VH1 interview from 1994. The video was posted to her Instagram story, showing fans that she explained the behind-the-scenes writing process to them at that time.
“I was up at the farm, upstate where we did the video, and it was nighttime, and I was just walking around, and I got the idea for the song,” Carey said at the time.
“I don’t know where it came from, sometimes things just come to me like that,” she said in the video. “That melody just came into my head, the verse melody. And then, I was walking around, and I just went in and I had a little keyboard set up there and I just kind of finished the lyrics and the melody just came pretty quickly,” Carey said in the video.
“She doesn’t know a diminished chord from a minor seventh chord to a major seventh chord,” Afanasieff added.
“So to claim that she wrote a very complicated chord-structured song with her finger on a Casio keyboard when she was a little girl, it’s kind of a tall tale,” he said on the podcast.
Afanasieff insists he and Carey came up with the song together while working on three songs for her Christmas album, “Merry Christmas.” This is the one thing both parties seemed to agree on.
“Mariah has never claimed to write ‘All I Want for Christmas’ by herself or as a child. She has always credited Walter, as he is cited as a writer on the song, so that would be ridiculous,” a representative for Carey told The New York Post.
“Not sure where that rumor came from, but Mariah is very respectful of writers and the craft, as she is a songwriter herself,” Carey’s representatives told The New York Post.
Wow, that’s quite the list. “Attention whore,” indeed. Looks like he’s made a pretty good living writing songs.
I noticed that I’ve not heard a single one of his songs, either!
Doesn’t matter. The general public doesn’t care about mechanics or theory. They care about perceived “talent.”
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Well, I’m not a music expert, but when I’ve listened to Led Zeppelin and The Who, I’m able to be impressed with and enjoy Robert Plant’s and Roger Daltrey’s range. I’ve heard some say that Jimmy Page isn’t all that on guitar, but he’s better than me for sure.
Interestingly, I’ve read that Pete Townshend wasn’t impressed by Zeppelin, but then you read a lot of things.
:-)
LOL. She sure has been known to do that. She should have stopped that when she started packing on the pounds.
Don’t be a playa piano hatah.
He just described most pop stars. That’s why they’re pop stars and not 1st chair violinist.
Unedited and awful!
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2btu52
People don't want to know how the sausage is made.
She’s also known to be quite racist…hosting frequent parties where no whites are allowed.
...for those songs they don't already know is performed by Jimmy Page, Eric Clapton, Jimi Hendrix, Pete Townshend, Eddie Van Halen, Stevie Ray Vaughn, David Gilmour, Angus Young, Randy Rhoads, Duane Eddy, Eddie Cochran, etc.
I remember the days in high school. Everybody knew who everybody’s favorite band was, it was their identity.
Had a friend in high school, big REO Speedwagon fan. Wore their T-Shirt every day. And then, Hi Infidelity came out. I noticed he hadn’t been wearing their T-Shirt, so I asked, and he told me, “I’m never listening to that effing band again.”
The most overrated and overplayed Christmas song. I hate it.
“She doesn’t play anything, she doesn’t play keyboard or piano. She doesn’t understand music, she doesn’t know chord changes and music theory or anything like that,” Afanasieff said during the podcast.
So?
I am told I have a 3.5 octave voice and I can sing many song Which are difficult for most.
I also imagine alternative speeds, pauses, instruments.
One song I will never sing is “Hallelujah “
I don’t get the lyrics and it’s one of those songs that sings itself. Anyone singing it sounds great.
As for Mariah, she is an amazing entertainer
I have no idea what a diminished chord is and don’t care
Not interested in music theory either.
Hummm a few bars and I’m good
Too funny and too true.
I was surprised to see that REO Speedwagon has more than a dozen former members and how many were lead singers. I was also surprised to see that it was the keyboardist, Neal Doughty, who led the band and is the only original member still in the band.
Their pop tunes from Hi-Infidelity sound like those a keyboard player would champion, compared to what a vocalist or lead guitarist would want. After almost a decade switching it up, it might have been inevitable that they'd end up playing pop music.
It’s a lot harder to find a Mariah Carey than it is to find a Walter Afanasieff.
Like Jonathan Cain destroyed Journey.
My daughter has a masters in vocal performance and pedagogy.
I want to show this to her and watch her shake her head.
She is not a fan of MC.
Uffda.
I was thinking along the same lines as you.
But then I got to post #67.
Uffda.
Should have said dominant 7th, GBDF. Not a Theory/Comp major, but when someone brags about knowing A LOT about music, they usually mean pop music.
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