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1 posted on 12/20/2022 1:59:12 AM PST by Cathi
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Washington doesn’t want peace.


2 posted on 12/20/2022 2:09:29 AM PST by Guenevere (“If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?”)
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Mcgregor is the clown who was boasting that the russians would start a massive 540k troop counter offensive no later than yesterday....yeah...


3 posted on 12/20/2022 2:21:04 AM PST by FreshPrince
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This spectacle is frighteningly reminiscent of events more than 50 years ago, when Washington’s proxy war in Vietnam was failing.

For those hoping for a peace deal, that ship has sailed. This war will be settled on the battlefield.

Like in Saigon and Kabul, we'll know the war is over when planes and helicopters land in Kiev to pick what's left of Ukraine.

4 posted on 12/20/2022 2:23:43 AM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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Washington Is Prolonging Ukraine's Suffering -

Its not about Russian security, no one is invading nuclear Russia. Its whether Ukraine, and its 44 million people have the right to be a free nation or must they be enslaved by Putin


6 posted on 12/20/2022 2:37:14 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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Macgregor is a nobody, and his 15 minutes of fame will be up when the war ends.


7 posted on 12/20/2022 2:37:24 AM PST by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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Kremlin: “US & Russia On The Brink Of A Direct Clash” In Ukraine
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/kremlin-us-russia-brink-direct-clash-ukraine

I’m sure there will be a fair amount of FReepers who will be cheering this on. When it turns into a nuclear WW3 I’m sure they’ll be partying like its 2029!


9 posted on 12/20/2022 2:45:38 AM PST by Tom Tetroxide
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The end of the American Empire is near. It’s time to return to a limited Constitutional republic.


10 posted on 12/20/2022 2:53:04 AM PST by JonPreston
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17 posted on 12/20/2022 3:46:15 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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More Macgregor foolishness.


22 posted on 12/20/2022 3:51:09 AM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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Even before I saw this article I’ve been thinking about the war there. Specifically the very worst possible outcome (besides it spreading into a wider war).

Which would be the detestation of Ukraine, complete loss of its sovereignty , the bleeding white of it’s young male population , coupled with massive debt from Western nations, food shortages and increased inflation.

Then Russia wins anyway, Which is a distinct possibility. From day one this administration should have used more diplomacy and tried to seek an agreement with Russia.

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f... things up.”‘
—Barack Obama


28 posted on 12/20/2022 4:08:13 AM PST by Phoenix8
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bkmk


36 posted on 12/20/2022 4:13:54 AM PST by xenia ( “The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it” George Orwell)
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Just after the WW2 Tehran Conference, Stalin said to a journalist, (roughly translated):

"It's high time the Slavic race was in charge of Europe."

Putin is channeling Stalin, and desperately wants to succeed where Stalin failed

Never forget that modern-day Russian culture is largely derived from the Mongol hordes who over-ran the region in the 13th century. They never really left.

If Western Civ is to survive, it must make it clear to Putin and his successors that such racial aggressions will be resisted without limit. We taught this lesson to Germany, now it's Russia's turn.

37 posted on 12/20/2022 4:14:57 AM PST by Chad C. Mulligan (CNN)
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100% true. More opportunity to grift for the Beltway sleaze of both parties.


44 posted on 12/20/2022 4:50:27 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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They telegraphed this when they lionized the stand-up comic who became incredibly wealthy over a few years of “governing” and pushed his staged productions out as “news from a hero”.


46 posted on 12/20/2022 4:52:20 AM PST by trebb (So many fools - so little time...)
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As things stands Azerbaijan and the Caspian Sea are key players. Stop the shipment of Iranian arms by any means necessary.


50 posted on 12/20/2022 5:28:55 AM PST by nagant
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Good to see some mainstream conservative publications FINALLY getting of the Ukraine Koolaid and publishing some stuff that goes against the Neocons.


51 posted on 12/20/2022 5:31:36 AM PST by BobL
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The correct comparison to Vietnam: France is hundreds of miles from Vietnam. France carved South Vietnam out of Vietnam. North Vietnam took it back. Russia is trying to carve Eastern Ukraine out of Ukraine. The question is whether Ukraine can take it back from an aggressor on the disputed territory’s border.


52 posted on 12/20/2022 5:36:12 AM PST by nagant
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This war has nothing to do with any Putin paranoia about NATO. It’s about Putin’s desire to reabsorb Ukraine into a restored Russian Empire. That’s the only peace that Putin is interested in.


68 posted on 12/20/2022 6:36:45 AM PST by Salohcin
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That Russia has a legitimate security interest in Ukraine is absurd. There is simply no basis for the premise that NATO (which only has a 2% of GDP military spending target, and only Greece goes somewhat above 3%) would attack it unless Russia/Putin did. A more plausible reason would be than less than half the Russians in Donbas wish to be part of Russia, which matter does not justify Putin's war on all Ukraine.

However, dictator, poisoner Putin is right in opposing the liberalism of the Left - which is why the main reason latter supports the war as it wants no competition for its desired dictatorship - and Ukraine is wrong to move towards it, while China - the main military enemy - watches and learns as her budding comrade is weakened as is the USA.

The Left remains the major enemy of the USA as it once was in all its positive aspects. Judgment happens, even if it may not be this:

Nuclear Armageddon An EAS WW3 Scenario

70 posted on 12/20/2022 6:45:48 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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Image above from Nuclear Armageddon | An EAS WW3 Scenario https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGetPDrNHME
71 posted on 12/20/2022 6:47:16 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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