Posted on 12/20/2022 1:59:12 AM PST by Cathi
Rubbish,there is no "American Empire" by any normal definition.
And here is the proof of it: conduct all the opinion polls you wish, in every country you can think of and you will not find a majority in any country who claim to belong to an "American Empire".
"The American Empire" is pure figment of imagination -- it doesn't exist, it will not disappear.
Now, America's military allies, friendly countries, partners in trade & commerce, countries with strong historical, family and community ties with Americans -- sure, we have many countries with shared interests.
Those will not suddenly disappear, regardless of what some say about the alleged "American Empire ".
But you are right, it is well past time to put the ratified Constitution back into our alleged republic.
No, can we all admit that Ukraine is not our circus and we should not be involved?
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but if we stop pumping money in, well..................
If you ask me, do I think Democrats waste our money and jeopardize national security by sending hi-tech weapons to a war zone where they are subject of capture and reverse engineering by Russians and whoever else -- yes.
If you ask me, do I think Democrats are providing Ukraine just enough aid to prevent their defeat, but not enough for victory -- yes.
If you ask me, do I think a Russian victory over Ukraine would have catastrophic consequences world-wide, beginning with Taiwan and extending to any border dispute (India?) the US is not committed to defend -- yes.
If you ask me, do I think the US is better off spending $ billions now to avoid the need for $ trillions later -- yes.
As for what is "our job", we will suffer the consequences of Russian victory regardless of whether it was "our job" to prevent it, or not.
I don't think we would like those consequences.
Your map shows our friends, partners and allies.
None of them consider themselves to be subjects of the "American Empire".
For one thing, they don't pay us taxes, and for another, their contributions to their own national defense are strictly voluntary.
So it's not, by any reasonable definition, an "empire" and never was.
And yes, friends, partners and allies can well change over the years.
We win some, we lose some, but it has nothing to do with "empire".
"Empire" is just a fantasy.
A Russian victory over Ukraine would begin to restore the old Tzarist or Soviet Russian Empires and so would encourage more adventures by dictators world-wide against their weaker neighbors.
Taiwan comes first to mind.
Such events would confirm the tide of history's turning away from western traditionally liberal style democracies & republics and toward Orwellian and Aldus Huxley's dystopian Brave New World.
You will not like it, and it will not be easily reversed.
It's easier to stop Russian aggression in Ukraine than it will be once Ukraine is absorbed and amalgamated into the Russian bear's belly.
That's the basic argument.
Our friends? As long as they dance to the tune of the Liberal World 🌍 Order as brought to us by decades of corrupt Western politicos. Please wake up and take a look around. We stopped being the good guys after they shot JFKs head off.
“”How is it OUR job to spend money on Ukraine defense- they are not even a NATO member.””
NATO exists to defend against Russia, and Russia just started the largest European war since WWII as they seek empire, our interest is Russia.
Are you joking? The highlighted countries hate the US and feel they are just American “vassals”. Do you not realize the hatred and disdain for Americans that our so-called “allies” possess. I cannot name any country that is a true, dependable ally.
The US is the most hated country in world history for a reason. The imbecilic, reckless warmongering Demonrats and Noecons are desperate to provoke a war with Russia.
Americans need to violently resist hostilities against Russia. This is NOT OUR FIGHT! Xiden is NOT MY PRESIDENT!
Some are friends, some are partners, some are allies.
Some were friends back in the US Revolutionary War -- French, Dutch -- some are relatively new , like Ukraine.
As for whose "tune" they "dance to", countries like France have long "danced" to their own tunes, which only sometimes harmonize with our "tunes".
JonPreston: "Please wake up and take a look around.
We stopped being the good guys after they shot JFKs head off."
We don't even know who "they" are.
I think it was RFK Jr., who said recently, "they" were our own intelligence services.
As for who is, or is not, "good guys", the US has always tried to be "good guys" to anybody not actually waging war against us.
Sometimes that can be quite hard to do.
I don’t care to have us continue to be the world police force. And I don’t care about Ukraine or Russia. Let them fight it and out. A pox on them both.
So, are we agreed then that JonPreston's idea about an "American Empire" is utterly ridiculous?
Not only do our alleged empire "subjects" not pay us taxes or obey our orders, now CrimsonTidegirl informs us they don't even like us, in fact, they all hate us, right?
The reality is that in every war the U.S. fought, our allies were always just a "coalition of the willing", meaning only those countries whose self-interests coincided enough with ours to justify , in their own minds, helping us fight.
Countries which served with us again & again, through thick or thin, so to speak, we think of them as more than just allies, but genuine friends, and there are some of those, here & there, regardless of the current day's news headlines & administration.
CrimsonTidegirl: "The US is the most hated country in world history for a reason.
The imbecilic, reckless warmongering Demonrats and Noecons are desperate to provoke a war with Russia."
No, the USA is far from the world's most hated country, and far from the most feared.
Arguably, we are still the most loved.
But human nature being what it is, many countries just love to say, in effect, "USA, you take care of it," then they want to stand back and criticize us for doing too much of "this" or not enough of "that".
The real issue is, when it really matters, are they there to help out?
Well, in Ukraine, for example, European countries combined have contributed almost as much as the U.S. totals, according to the most recent list I've seen.
CrimsonTidegirl: "Americans need to violently resist hostilities against Russia.
This is NOT OUR FIGHT!
Xiden is NOT MY PRESIDENT!"
Nonsense.
Orcs must die, Russians must go back to Russia.
The U.S. will suffer as much as any if Ukrainians failed to defeat orc invaders.
As for Brandon, sadly, the 2022 "Red Wave" showed that whatever Democrats figured out in 2020 is still working.
We're not "policing" anything in Ukraine.
We're helping Ukrainians kill orcs, that's not "police" work.
It's more like hunters shooting rabid dogs.
We're helping supply them with ways & means.
The reason you should care is because successful naked aggression in Ukraine will soon inspire more naked aggression, likely beginning in Taiwan, and continuing anywhere ruthless dictators see smaller neighbors as ripe for plucking.
We will not like that world and Ukraine is our chance to prevent it.
Sorry Joe. The USA has lost any moral authority to intervene in any conflict anywhere. We are Faux Demcracy and everyone can see Uke v Russia is about the $$$$$$$$. Just ask the Big Guy.
"Faux Democracy" depends on your definition of "our Democracy".
What Democrats mean by "Democracy" is pretty much the same thing communists mean by, for example, "Peoples Democratic Republic of Upper Slobistan."
"Democracy" is what the U.S. has had in nearly all our big cities for around 100 years -- single party, top down rule by elites who answer to nobody except even higher-up elites.
Indeed, why do you think our Democrats were first called "Democratics"?
It was a mocking reference by the old Federalists to Thomas Jefferson's support for the "Democratic" French Revolution, and it's use of Joseph Guillotin's latest invention for spilling "the blood of tyrants".
Jeffersonians liked the word, "Democratics", adopted it and even called themselves "The Democracy".
So, by those standards, we"re not a "faux democracy", we're the real thing.
What we're not so much any more is a constitutionally defined & constrained law-abiding republic, and that's a shame.
As for our moral authority, we have plenty of moral authority to help Ukrainians kill orcs -- the same moral authority as hunters shooting rabid dogs, so that's not an issue.
But if we stand by and let orcs win & rule over Ukraine, then that will be a moral issue similar to 1938-39 in Austria, Czechoslovakia and Poland.
We will not like the results, general.
But your article says this:
Is it threatened and in danger?
Oh, yeah, big time, and will be until Republicans find the will and the ways to defeat the current Democrat lock on political power in the U.S.A.
And it costs ME money. Billions of dollars are flowing to the corrupt regime in Ukraine and it is being pissed away.
I will make it plain, so you know EXACTLY how I feel. F**K UKRAINE! F@@K RUSSIA! And F**K Joe Biden!
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